When was the last update to Siduction?

[vonh]

It is quite some time since I update Siduction and inspite of the fact that the KDE has recently announced some updates when I do an apt upgrade or apt dist-upgrade, only a few items show up.

Could my repository list be out of date, or have new changes not been propagated to the repositories?
The only other non-standard configuration of my system is a work around for a bug in subversion.

# snapshots.debian.org
# added for subversion 1.9.2 subversion bug #803725
deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150924T154447Z/ unstable main

This are the contents of debian.list and siduction.list

debian.list

# debian loadbalancer
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main

siduction.list

# official siduction-lists
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/base unstable main
#deb-src http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/base unstable main

deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/extra unstable main
#deb-src http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/extra unstable main

deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes unstable main
#deb-src http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes unstable main

deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext kde-frameworks main

This is the output of uname -a

Linux desktop 4.3.0-towo.3-siduction-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT siduction 4.3-2 (2015-11-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux

root@desktop:~# apt-get -s upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libsane-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binutils gir1.2-gtk-3.0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libloudmouth1-0 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common ucf
9 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Inst ucf [3.0030] (3.0031 http.debian.net [all])
Inst binutils [2.25.1-7] (2.25.51.20151113-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libgtk-3-common [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [all])
Inst libgtk-3-0 [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst gir1.2-gtk-3.0 [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libgtk-3-bin [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libloudmouth1-0 [1.4.3-12.1] (1.5.1-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libvte-2.91-0 [0.42.1-1] (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [amd64]) []
Inst libvte-2.91-common [0.42.1-1] (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [all])
Conf ucf (3.0031 http.debian.net [all])
Conf binutils (2.25.51.20151113-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libgtk-3-common (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [all])
Conf libgtk-3-0 (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf gir1.2-gtk-3.0 (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libgtk-3-bin (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libloudmouth1-0 (1.5.1-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libvte-2.91-common (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [all])
Conf libvte-2.91-0 (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [amd64])
N: Ignoring file 'pgdg.list.disable' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
N: Ignoring file 'pgdg.list.disable' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension

[devil]

Who told you to use upgrade? No wonder you are not getting the usual amount of packages.
Siduction uses dist-upgrade only.


And whatever pgdg.list.disable is meant to to, it does not work, hence your error in the upgrade.

[der_bud]

As I cannot see it clearly noted in your startpost, you certainly do an "apt update" (note, update not upgrade) first in front of the other commands, do you?
Please show

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apt-mark showhold
inxi -r
apt-cache policy kde-runtime
apt-cache policy plasma-framework

[vonh]

Who told you to use upgrade? No wonder you are not getting the usual amount of packages.
Siduction uses dist-upgrade only.


And whatever pgdg.list.disable is meant to to, it does not work, hence your error in the upgrade.

In my experience adding renaming a source.list file to disable it has no effect on updates. The message produced says it is being ignored.

apt-get dist-upgrade produces pretty much the same output as apt-get upgrade, even after deleting the pgdg.list.disable file.

root@desktop:~# sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libsane-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binutils gir1.2-gtk-3.0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libloudmouth1-0 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common ucf
9 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Inst ucf [3.0030] (3.0031 http.debian.net [all])
Inst binutils [2.25.1-7] (2.25.51.20151113-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libgtk-3-common [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [all])
Inst libgtk-3-0 [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst gir1.2-gtk-3.0 [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libgtk-3-bin [3.18.3-3] (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libloudmouth1-0 [1.4.3-12.1] (1.5.1-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Inst libvte-2.91-0 [0.42.1-1] (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [amd64]) []
Inst libvte-2.91-common [0.42.1-1] (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [all])
Conf ucf (3.0031 http.debian.net [all])
Conf binutils (2.25.51.20151113-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libgtk-3-common (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [all])
Conf libgtk-3-0 (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf gir1.2-gtk-3.0 (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libgtk-3-bin (3.18.4-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libloudmouth1-0 (1.5.1-1 http.debian.net [amd64])
Conf libvte-2.91-common (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [all])
Conf libvte-2.91-0 (0.42.1-2 http.debian.net [amd64])
N: Ignoring file 'pgdg.list.disable' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
N: Ignoring file 'pgdg.list.disable' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension

[vonh]

As I cannot see it clearly noted in your startpost, you certainly do an "apt update" (note, update not upgrade) first in front of the other commands, do you?
Please show

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apt-mark showhold
inxi -r
apt-cache policy kde-runtime
apt-cache policy plasma-framework

apt-mark showhold
- No output

apt-cache policy kde-runtime

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kde-runtime:
  Installed: 4:15.08.2-siduction2
  Candidate: 4:15.08.2-siduction2
  Version table:
*** 4:15.08.2-siduction2 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ kde-frameworks/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:15.08.2-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     4:15.08.1-1 0
        500 http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150924T154447Z/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     4:15.08.0-2.1 0
        500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages


apt-cache policy plasma-framework

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plasma-framework:
  Installed: 5.15.0-siduction1
  Candidate: 5.15.0-siduction1
  Version table:
*** 5.15.0-siduction1 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ kde-frameworks/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     5.15.0-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     5.14.0-1 0
        500 http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150924T154447Z/ unstable/main amd64 Packages



The other package configuraton related files are:

root@desktop:~# cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/10siduction

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Package: *
Pin: release l=SiductionExperimental
Pin-Priority: 100

root@desktop:~# cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/libval

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Package: libval14
Pin: version 2.0.2
Pin-Priority: 600

Package: libsane
Pin: version 1.0.24
Pin-Priority: 600

root@desktop:~# cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/subversion

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Package: subversion libsvn1
# Pin: origin snapshot.debian.org
Pin: version 1.9.2-1
Pin-Priority: 700


[dieres]

Did you answer der_bud wether you did an apt update or apt-get update before you tried upgrade or dist-upgrade ?

[devil]

Did you perform a 'apt-get update' before the 'apt-get dist-upgrade? Please show the output of 'apt-cache policy'.


greetz
devil

[vonh]

Did you answer der_bud wether you did an apt update or apt-get update before you tried upgrade or dist-upgrade ?

I always to an apt update before I do an upgrade or  a dist-upgrade

[vonh]

Did you perform a 'apt-get update' before the 'apt-get dist-upgrade? Please show the output of 'apt-cache policy'.


greetz
devil

I always do apt-update before apt upgrade/dist-upgrade

apt-cache-policy

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Package files:
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
500 http://packages.x2go.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages
     release o=X2Go,a=stable,n=jessie,l=X2Go,c=main
     origin packages.x2go.org
500 http://packages.x2go.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
     release o=X2Go,a=stable,n=jessie,l=X2Go,c=main
     origin packages.x2go.org
500 http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository/ sarge/contrib i386 Packages
     release v=3.1,o=Jamie Cameron,a=stable,n=sarge,l=Webmin,c=contrib
     origin webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk
500 http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository/ sarge/contrib amd64 Packages
     release v=3.1,o=Jamie Cameron,a=stable,n=sarge,l=Webmin,c=contrib
     origin webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk
500 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt/ all/main i386 Packages
     origin downloads.sourceforge.net
500 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt/ all/main amd64 Packages
     origin downloads.sourceforge.net
500 http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150924T154447Z/ unstable/main Translation-en
500 http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150924T154447Z/ unstable/main i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
     origin snapshot.debian.org
500 http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150924T154447Z/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
     origin snapshot.debian.org
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ kde-frameworks/main amd64 Packages
     release o=kdenext,n=kde-frameworks,c=main
     origin packages.siduction.org
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes/ unstable/main i386 Packages
     release o=Siduction,a=unstable,n=unstable,c=main
     origin ftp.spline.de
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Siduction,a=unstable,n=unstable,c=main
     origin ftp.spline.de
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/extra/ unstable/main i386 Packages
     release o=Siduction,n=unstable,c=main
     origin ftp.spline.de
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/extra/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Siduction,n=unstable,c=main
     origin ftp.spline.de
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/base/ unstable/main i386 Packages
     release o=Siduction,n=unstable,c=main
     origin ftp.spline.de
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/base/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Siduction,n=unstable,c=main
     origin ftp.spline.de
500 https://oss-binaries.phusionpassenger.com/apt/passenger/ jessie/main i386 Packages
     release v=1,o=https://packagecloud.io/phusion/passenger,a=jessie,n=jessie,l=passenger,c=main
     origin oss-binaries.phusionpassenger.com
500 https://oss-binaries.phusionpassenger.com/apt/passenger/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
     release v=1,o=https://packagecloud.io/phusion/passenger,a=jessie,n=jessie,l=passenger,c=main
     origin oss-binaries.phusionpassenger.com
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/non-free Translation-en
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main Translation-en
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/contrib Translation-en
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/non-free i386 Packages
     origin http.debian.net
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/contrib i386 Packages
     origin http.debian.net
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages
     origin http.debian.net
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
     origin http.debian.net
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
     origin http.debian.net
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     origin http.debian.net
Pinned packages:
     subversion -> 1.9.2-1
     libval14 -> (not found)
     libsvn1 -> 1.9.2-1
     libsane -> (not found)


[der_bud]

Your output of plasma-framework policy versus mine

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apt-cache policy plasma-framework
plasma-framework:
  Installiert:           5.16.0-1
  Installationskandidat: 5.16.0-1
  Versionstabelle:
*** 5.16.0-1 500
        500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     5.15.0-siduction1 500
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext unstable/main i386 Packages
shows that there *should* be a newer version for you (5.16.0) on the debian mirrors, dont't know why yours says 5.15.0 at debian. Does apt update run through without errors (like hashsums and such)? Can you pastebin somewhere the complete output of

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apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false

[piper]

Sarge, Ubuntuzilla, really ?

[ghstryder]

Well, I mean, what could go wrong?   

[absolut]

vonh,

please post *all* sources lists and pinning configs so that we can understand what is going on. your last post listing all those 3rd party repositories might make people here worry whether your system is still OK and not broken by now...

btw, what is this command "apt-cache-policy"?

best
absolut

[vonh]

Your output of plasma-framework policy versus mine

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apt-cache policy plasma-framework
plasma-framework:
  Installiert:           5.16.0-1
  Installationskandidat: 5.16.0-1
  Versionstabelle:
*** 5.16.0-1 500
        500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     5.15.0-siduction1 500
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext unstable/main i386 Packages
shows that there *should* be a newer version for you (5.16.0) on the debian mirrors, dont't know why yours says 5.15.0 at debian. Does apt update run through without errors (like hashsums and such)? Can you pastebin somewhere the complete output of

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apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false

The output doesn't seem enough to warrant a pastebin. Here is the output below

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Ign http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge InRelease
Hit http://packages.siduction.org kde-frameworks InRelease
Hit http://ftp.spline.de unstable InRelease
Hit http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge Release.gpg
Get:1 http://packages.x2go.org jessie InRelease [16.0 kB]
Hit http://ftp.spline.de unstable InRelease
Hit http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge Release
Hit http://ftp.spline.de unstable InRelease
Hit http://snapshot.debian.org unstable InRelease
Get:2 http://packages.siduction.org kde-frameworks/main amd64 Packages [327 kB]
Get:3 http://http.debian.net unstable InRelease [264 kB]
Ign http://downloads.sourceforge.net all InRelease
Get:4 http://ftp.spline.de unstable/main amd64 Packages [19.7 kB]
Get:5 http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge/contrib amd64 Packages [1,240 B]
Get:6 http://ftp.spline.de unstable/main i386 Packages [24.6 kB]


[holgerw]

Hello,

as I can see you use current webmin from Oct. 2015.

@piper, I also tripped over "sarge" entry for webmin, but guess, this stuff is build against current Debian stable: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin_1.770_all.deb

But all stuff for Debian stable was build with gcc4.x compiler. All current Debian Testing and Sid packages are build with gcc5 compiler.

I'm not familar with packaging but could this cause the issue here?

Kind regards,
  Holger