What is the point of KDE, it seems to be in continuous development never quite getting there. Some of the K apps are very good but a lot come with piles of unneeded dependencies. It was good to see Digikam with the latest Qt5 version minimising it's KDE dependencies and probably getting more users as a result, I started using it again a few months back I also use Kwin and sddm but not much else. I recently thought I would try Plasma-desktop it looks OK but nested menus, twenty years of development and that is progress ? I also added widgets to the panel but gave up trying to find out how to remove them, something so simple on any other desktop, progress, I don't think so. I stopped using KDE 8 years ago and don't see any reason to go back.