Release Notes for siduction 2016.1 »Patience«

[jaegermeister]

Btw, I am really curious to see what will happen with the coming of Wayland, about how it will affect things.
For instance will things like "ssh -X", VNC still be possible (both as client and server) and what will be the real improvements in terms of speed and reliability, especially running a complex desktop like plasma?

From what I have read, theorically, it could somewhat lower hardware requirements for older machines (is that correct?) which would mean extending their lives with modern stuff.

It's anyway clear that, with systemd and soon wayland, linux will deviate a lot from classic unix.

[melmarker]

classic unix machines mostly don't use X - at least at the time i work with

[jaegermeister]

Actually, Solaris, OpenSolaris forks, BSDs, all feature X.
But this is going rather off topic...

[dibl]

I just installed Patience to a USB stick, using "dd" to the /dev/sde device.  It is perfect -- found my wifi chip and set up networking automatically.  Very nice job!

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siducer@siduction:~$ inxi -v3
System:    Host: siduction Kernel: 4.9.0-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.2.1)
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.8.4 (Qt 5.7.1)
           Distro: siduction 16.1.0 Patience - kde - (201612232347)
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 350 G1 v: 0992100000400010000634101
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 21B7 v: KBC Version 46.0B
           UEFI: Insyde v: F.12 date: 06/12/2014
Battery    BAT0: charge: 22.5 Wh 88.5% condition: 25.4/25.4 Wh (100%)
           model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Discharging
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-4210U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9583
           clock speeds: max: 2700 MHz 1: 929 MHz 2: 826 MHz 3: 842 MHz 4: 803 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.0 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@59.99hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 4000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
           Card-2: Ralink RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
           driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlo1 state: up mac: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Drives:    HDD Total Size: NA (-)
           ID-1: model: Samsung_SSD_840
           ID-2: model: STORE_N_GO
Info:      Processes: 182 Uptime: 29 min Memory: 803.3/3874.0MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 6.2.1 Client: Shell (bash 4.4.51) inxi: 2.3.5

[bevo]

Starten von USB-live:

Auf meinem Lenovo T61 läuft das System unmittelbar nach dem Startbild auf einen kernel-panic.
Kernel 4.8.10 macht keine Probleme.

Auf einem Desktop-System und einem Lenovo X230 funktioniert alles.

bevo


Auf dem Desptop-System doch nicht so ganz.
Beim Starten erscheint die Meldung:

Firmware-Bug: CPU2: APIC id mismatch. Firmware: 2 CPUID: 5

Die gleiche Message für CPU 3-5.

Das System startet, friert aber sporadisch ein.

Bisher nur mit USB-live getestet.

bevo

Gibt es dafür inzwischen eine Lösung?

bevo

[devil]

Das Einfrieren passiert unter welchem DE mit welcher Grafikkarte und Treiber?

[bevo]

DE = KDE

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Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.0 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1200@59.95hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.48.0 / 4.9.0-towo.2-siduction-amd64, LLVM 3.9.1)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2


[melmarker]

Die Alternativen möchtest Du nicht hören glaube ich - nen anderen Grafiktreiber versuchen oder auf Plasma verzichten - wahlweise ist auch passende Hardware zu empfehlen.  Oder ne andere Oberfläche auf der Hardware. Ist diesmal nicht mal Sarkasmus, nur die reine unverfälschte Wahrheit.

[bevo]

@melmarker

Hmmm 

Und was ist mit dem APIC bug sowie dem kernel panic auf dem T61?

bevo

[melmarker]

wenn man den nicht ignorieren kann - weil der wirklich was karpottmacht - dann nen 4.8er Kernel nehmen

Und ja - ich erschreck mich bei jedem Systemstart über diese dämliche Liste, dass es alle meine 8 cores gar nicht geben würde Ganz richtig kann das nicht sein.

Noch mal Plasma - das wird in der Stabilisierungsphase wärend des Freezes garantiert noch besser - aber das kann ne Weile dauern.

[joji]

If you allow me ...


Nearly half of January! Any idea when we may expect the 2017 Siduction LXQT?


Thank you.

[melmarker]

typical debian answer - when it is done

In other words - there will be some point releases of components this weekend - and i'm not willing to release siduction LXQt without these new packages.

Edit: http://lxqt.org/release/2017/01/14/0.3.2-release-lxqt-build-tools-and-more/

[joji]

Thank you very much for more than a 'typical Debian answer'. Agree with your efforts to make the iso as nice and as up to date as possible.


Looking forward to testing it!


Thank you.

[jaegermeister]

So far so good...

After installation has been performed (now just some minor customizations will follow), I can happily tell that not only all my hardware was recognized at first shot (including my Canon S100 camera within kamera) but also that double screen has been immediately configured right and that also multimedia part (even if I have taken out the extra Audigy soundcard because I do not need it in the present setting, but I am sure that phonon would have managed it great) did not need a single config by me. I would call this pretty much SPECTACULAR.

Also, installing on preformatted xfs partitions with internal log for performance was recognized by the installer without a glitch. I am thinking that this is by far the best release ever, taking away the config fuss from the average user and letting him concentrate on the work and fun rather than on headaches on how to make things run smooth.

This is a copy of my inxi -F for referral:

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System:    Host: RONIN Kernel: 4.9.0-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.8.4
           Distro: siduction 16.1.0 Patience - kde - (201612232347)
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Z800 Workstation serial: XXXXXXXXXXXX
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0AECh v: D serial: XXXXXXXXXX
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 786G5 v03.57 date: 07/15/2013
CPU:       Hexa core Intel Xeon X5650 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2661 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz 3: 1729 MHz 4: 1729 MHz
           5: 1995 MHz 6: 1596 MHz 7: 1596 MHz 8: 1596 MHz 9: 1596 MHz 10: 1596 MHz
           11: 1596 MHz 12: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF106GL [Quadro 2000]
           Display Server: X.org 1.19.0 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 89x29 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GF106 High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-3 Logitech Webcam C310 driver: USB Audio
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-towo.1-siduction-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
           driver: tg3
           IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: 24:be:05:e1:fb:18
           Card-2: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
           driver: tg3
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 24:be:05:e1:fb:19
           Card-3: VIA VIA VNT-6656 [WiFi 802.11b/g USB Dongle] driver: vt6656
           IF: wlx00127b400cb8 state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 3500.7GB (40.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sdc model: WDC_WD10EFRX size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD2003FYYS size: 2000.4GB
           ID-3: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5003ABYZ size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 39G used: 4.9G (13%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: /home size: 377G used: 491M (1%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 44.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 302 Uptime: 1:12 Memory: 1558.1/24097.7MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

So, very HUGE compliments to the dev team, for making all of this happen, guys you really kick some major ass!
It brought me back pleasure into sid computing, after a long survival with a broken kde4.
I will also respawn the ridersonthestorm screen for login, it's soooo cool, especially for bikers like me.

One note for future upgrades: not always a du is enough, like it has been in the transitions from kdm to lightdm to sddm, and how it will be, for example, in the future wayland transition. It would be nice to have detailed "transitional notes" either when there's a new release (like at old sidux times) or whenever necessary. It could also be some section on the website (which could also signal current du alerts), but the message here is clear: no matter how the information would be given, the user should follow faithfully upgrade instructions from the devs.

Thank you again for making all this coolness happen!

[cas]

an eurer Stelle hätte ich es  2017.1 »Patience« genannt.
So klingt es bereits ein wenig veraltet, obwohl es das nicht ist.

C