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After the last few  days saw a lot of groundwork being layed in the form on qt-packages, later today KDE Frameworks 5.42 will be rolling in. Pleese keep your eyes peeled.


Nachdem in den letzten Tagen bereits mit vielen Qt-Paketen die Grundlagen gelegt wurden, ziehen im Tagesverlauf KDE Frameworks 5.42 in Sid ein. Bitte Augen offen halten.

On a desktop system that was updated only a few days ago, I am seeing this:


The following packages will be REMOVED:   akonadi-server baloo-kf5 breeze dolphin dolphin-plugins frameworkintegration kactivitymanagerd kate
  kcalc kcharselect kde-baseapps-bin kde-cli-tools kde-config-cddb kde-config-gtk-style
  kde-config-screenlocker kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4 kde-style-oxygen-qt5
  kded5 kdenetwork-filesharing kdepim-doc kdepim-runtime kdialog keditbookmarks kfind kinfocenter kinit
  kio kio-extras kio-ldap kio-sieve kio-smtp kmail konqueror konsole konsole-kpart kpackagetool5 kross
  ktexteditor-katepart kwalletmanager kwin-common kwin-decoration-oxygen kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11
  libkf5activitiesstats1 libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar5 libkf5akonadicontact5
  libkf5akonadicore5 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-plugins
  libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5 libkf5alarmcalendar5
  libkf5baloo5 libkf5balooengine5 libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5calendarcore5
  libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5cddb5 libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5contacteditor5 libkf5declarative5
  libkf5emoticons-bin libkf5emoticons5 libkf5followupreminder5 libkf5globalaccel-bin
  libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5 libkf5gravatar5
  libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap5 libkf5jsembed5
  libkf5kaddressbookgrantlee5 libkf5kcmutils5 libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin
  libkf5khtml5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5 libkf5kiogui5 libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5
  libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6 libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5krosscore5 libkf5krossui5 libkf5ksieveui5
  libkf5libkdepim-plugins libkf5libkdepim5 libkf5libkdepimakonadi5 libkf5libkleo5
  libkf5mailcommon-plugins libkf5mailcommon5 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport5
  libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5messagecomposer5 libkf5messagecore5 libkf5messagelist5
  libkf5messageviewer5 libkf5newstuff5 libkf5newstuffcore5 libkf5notifications5 libkf5notifyconfig5
  libkf5package5 libkf5parts5 libkf5people5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5pimcommon-plugins libkf5pimcommon5
  libkf5pimcommonakonadi5 libkf5pimtextedit5 libkf5plasma5 libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5purpose-bin
  libkf5purpose5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5runner5 libkf5sendlater5 libkf5service-bin libkf5service5
  libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su5 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5texteditor5 libkf5textwidgets5
  libkf5tnef5 libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet5 libkf5webengineviewer5 libkf5xmlgui-bin libkf5xmlgui5
  libkf5xmlrpcclient5 libkolab1 libkpimgapicalendar5 libkpimgapicontacts5 libkpimgapicore5
  libkpimgapitasks5 libkpimkdav5 libkscreenlocker5 libkwalletbackend5-5 libkwin4-effect-builtins1
  libokular5core7 liboxygenstyle5-5 libprocessui7 libqapt3-runtime libtaskmanager5 libtaskmanager6
  libweather-ion7 milou okular-extra-backends plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-desktop plasma-discover
  plasma-framework plasma-integration plasma-pa plasma-runner-installer plasma-theme-oxygen
  plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons plasma-workspace polkit-kde-1 polkit-kde-agent-1
  qapt-batch qml-module-org-kde-activities qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop
  qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin qml-module-org-kde-kconfig qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons
  qml-module-org-kde-kio qml-module-org-kde-kirigami2 qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols
  qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem qml-module-org-kde-purpose
  qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative sddm-theme-breeze systemsettings
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kwayland-data kwayland-integration libcom-err2 libext2fs2 libqt5waylandclient5 libqt5waylandcompositor5
  linux-headers-4.15.2-towo.2-siduction-amd64 linux-image-4.15.2-towo.2-siduction-amd64 qtwayland5
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binutils binutils-common binutils-x86-64-linux-gnu breeze-icon-theme bsdutils cups cups-browsed
  cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-filters cups-filters-core-drivers
  cups-ipp-utils cups-ppdc cups-server-common dirmngr e2fslibs e2fsprogs fdisk fonts-opensymbol gnupg
  gnupg-agent gnupg-l10n gnupg-utils gnupg2 gpg gpg-agent gpg-wks-client gpg-wks-server gpgconf gpgsm
  gpgv groff-base kimageformat-plugins libbinutils libblkid1 libcomerr2 libcups2 libcupscgi1
  libcupsfilters1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libfdisk1 libfontembed1 libkf5archive5
  libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5auth5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data
  libkf5completion5 libkf5config-bin libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5
  libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-bin libkf5dbusaddons-data
  libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5dnssd-data libkf5dnssd5 libkf5doctools5 libkf5filemetadata-bin
  libkf5filemetadata-data libkf5filemetadata3 libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5
  libkf5idletime5 libkf5itemmodels5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data
  libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5js5 libkf5jsapi5 libkf5networkmanagerqt6 libkf5prison5 libkf5pty-data
  libkf5pty5 libkf5solid-bin libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data libkf5sonnetcore5
  libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5syntaxhighlighting-data libkf5syntaxhighlighting5 libkf5threadweaver5
  libkf5unitconversion-data libkf5unitconversion5 libkf5waylandclient5 libkf5waylandserver5
  libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5windowsystem5 libmount1
  libpam-systemd libprocps6 libqt5concurrent5 libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 libqt5gui5 libqt5network5
  libqt5opengl5 libqt5printsupport5 libqt5sql5 libqt5sql5-mysql libqt5sql5-sqlite libqt5test5
  libqt5widgets5 libqt5xml5 libreoffice libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base
  libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core
  libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer
  libsmartcols1 libss2 libsystemd0 libudev1 libuuid1 libv4l-0 libv4l2rds0 libv4lconvert0 libvlc-bin
  libvlc5 libvlccore9 linux-headers-siduction-amd64 linux-image-siduction-amd64 man-db mount
  openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server oxygen-icon-theme pinentry-gtk2 printer-driver-c2050
  printer-driver-cjet procps python-six python3-requests python3-six python3-uno qml-module-org-kde-solid
  qtdeclarative5-kf5solid rfkill scdaemon systemd systemd-sysv udev uno-libs3 ure util-linux v4l-utils
  vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
176 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 189 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 228 MB of archives.
After this operation, 19.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]


Possibly it is OK to proceed, but how will I know?  I see no replacement for breeze, kcalc, or dolphin, for example.

But you will have much free diskspace afterwards - Joke aside, don't found a running transition in the tracker - but a little bit patience will not hurt i guess.

Thank you.  I agree, I'll wait until better weather.

It's getting better

175 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 42 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Hier werden noch die 3 Pakete libkf5auth-bin-dev libkf5config-bin-dev und libsmbios2 entfernt, die aber nur ersetzt werden. Ansonsten läuft dist-upgrade durch.

3 packages left to be removed, but they get reinstalled. Problem solved.

here 2 packages left to be removed, but only 1 get reinstalled.

QuoteDie folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libcomerr2:i386 libkrb5-3:i386

libcomerr2 wird durch libcom-err2 ersetzt -
aber libkrb5-3:i386 ? Kann / soll das weg, oder fehlt hier noch libkrb5-3:amd64 

Da beide Pakete nix, aber auch wirklich nix mit KDE zu tun haben, wäre ein eigener Fred angemessen. Und ja, sieht nach einem typischen Multi-Arch-Problem aus.


% aptitude show libkrb5-3
Paket: libkrb5-3                               
Version: 1.16-2
Zustand: Installiert
Automatisch installiert: nein
Multi-Arch: same
Priorität: optional
Bereich: libs
Verwalter: Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org>
Architektur: amd64
Unkomprimierte Größe: 1.055 k
Hängt ab von: libc6 (>= 2.16), libcomerr2 (>= 1.34), libk5crypto3 (>=
              1.15~beta1), libkeyutils1 (>= 1.5.9), libkrb5support0 (= 1.16-2)
Empfiehlt: krb5-locales
Schlägt vor: krb5-doc, krb5-user
Beschädigt: libsmbclient (<= 2:3.6.1-2), libsmbclient:i386 (<= 2:3.6.1-2), sssd
            (<= 1.2.1-4.3), sssd:i386 (<= 1.2.1-4.3), libkrb5-3:i386 (!= 1.16-2)
Ersetzt: libkrb5-3:i386 (< 1.16-2)
Beschreibung: MIT-Kerberos-Laufzeitbibliotheken
Kerberos ist ein System, um Benutzer und Dienste eines Netzwerks zu
authentisieren. Kerberos ist ein »Vertrauenswürdiger Dritter«-Dienst (trusted
third-party). Dies bedeutet, dass einem Dritten (dem Kerberos-Dienst) von allen
Entitäten des Netzwerks (Benutzern und Diensten, normalerweise »Principals«
genannt) vertraut wird.

Dies ist die MIT-Referenzimplementierung von Kerberos V5.

Dieses Paket enthält die Laufzeitbibliothek für die Haupt-Kerberos-v5-API, die
von Anwendungen und Kerberos-Clients verwendet wird.
Homepage: http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/
Markierungen: role::shared-lib


QuoteDa beide Pakete nix, aber auch wirklich nix mit KDE zu tun haben, wäre ein eigener Fred angemessen.

das stimmt natürlich - sorry -

QuoteUnd ja, sieht nach einem typischen Multi-Arch-Problem aus

um etwas zu lernen, wo kann man denn checken an was es hängt, bzw ob/wann die amd64 Version verfügbar ist/sein wird. Hier sieht es für mich so aus, als wenn beide Versionen gebaut sind https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=krb5

EDIT: es ist wohl kein "Multi-Arch-Problem" sondern aptitude show libkrb5-3 zeigt ja

Quoteaptitude show libkrb5-3
Paket: libkrb5-3                               
Version: 1.16-2
...
Multi-Arch: same
..
Architektur: amd64
...
Ersetzt: libkrb5-3:i386 (< 1.16-2)

apt show libkrb5-3 zeigt das leider nicht

Es entfällt, also erledigt.