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Offline jyp

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Proper full-upgrade procedure
« on: 2020/09/18, 21:28:00 »
Since sidux days I followed a strict full upgrage procedure.

1. Open a terminal (tty)
2. Drop to runlevel 3
3. apt update
4. apt full-upgrade
5. apt clean (apt autoremove sometimes)
6. reboot

That procedure never failed me.
But, since a latest install [siduction 18.3.0 Patience - kde - (202007152027)] on an old iMac there is a widget in the tray called Discover


How safe is it to full-upgrade using that widget?
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Offline sunrat

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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #1 on: 2020/09/20, 03:47:25 »
I've used Discover in Buster with no issues for upgrades but it's a bit quirky such as completion indicators only moving to half way when it's finished. I'm not convinced it is great for searching and installing new applications though.
In siduction mine is also regularly upgrade 18.3 but I don't have Discover installed. Not sure how you got it.
I haven't dropped to runlevel 3 for upgrades for several years and had no problems.
Just open Konsole and
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apt update
apt full-upgrade
reboot

apt clean, apt autoremove (with caution), and kernel-remover are handy to reclaim disk space if you need. I usually do them after reboot, it's better for kernel-remover to have the new kernel active, and always keep the last working one installed.

Offline jyp

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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #2 on: 2020/09/20, 04:08:35 »
Didn't do anything but installing the latest iso at the time (about 3 weeks ago) and full upgrading weekly since. Discover appeared and I didn't use it nor have I any intention of using it. Just curious. I will probably uninstall it.

Never full-upgraded either on my other machines (4 of them, all running siduction) without dropping to level 3. Looks like it is now safe to full-upgrade while in plasma but I am not knowledgeable enough to know why.

Thanks for answering.

Offline sunrat

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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #3 on: 2020/09/20, 05:20:05 »
I have several systems with Debian Buster installed from netinstall image. Discover gets pulled in when I add the kde-plasma-desktop package.
Curiously kde-plasma-desktop is installed in siduction but plasma-discover is not despite it being a recommends. Maybe it wasn't a recommends when I installed a couple of years ago?

Aaah, I just realised it's older than 18.3:
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$ inxi -S
System:    Host: siduction-brain2 Kernel: 5.8.10-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.17.5
           Distro: siduction 17.1.0 Patience - kde - (201703051755)

Offline seasons

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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #4 on: 2020/09/20, 05:55:26 »
I've been running sidux/aptosid/siduction for a long time now. I've always used Synaptic, despite the warnings against it. It's always worked for me. YMMV

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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #5 on: 2020/09/20, 11:20:32 »
Quote from: jyp
Since sidux days I followed a strict full upgrage procedure.

1. Open a terminal (tty)
2. Drop to runlevel 3
3. apt update
4. apt full-upgrade
5. apt clean (apt autoremove sometimes)
6. reboot

I also follow this process, and it has never failed.

Discover appears to be a feature of the KDE/Plasma desktop. It does not exist on my LXQt system. That being the case, I don't believe it can be 100% safe to let a desktop widget control a full-upgrade.
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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #6 on: 2020/09/20, 14:32:02 »
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Since sidux days I followed a strict full upgrage procedure.

1. Open a terminal (tty) 
2. Drop to runlevel 3 
3. apt update 
4. apt full-upgrade 
5. apt clean (apt autoremove sometimes) 
6. reboot
 
I've lost the drop to runlevel 3 since systemd, but, I start my updates right after a fresh boot, so, I'm assuming I don't need it. 
 
1) Ctrl-alt-f2 
2) log in as root 
3) apt update (checking what, if anything, is to be removed) 
4) apt full-upgrade 
5) apt autoremove (Making sure what it's removing makes sense) 
6) systemctl reboot 

Has worked well with the kde and lxqt versions. 
« Last Edit: 2020/09/20, 14:35:58 by GoinEasy9 »
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Offline jyp

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Re: Proper full-upgrade procedure
« Reply #7 on: 2020/09/20, 18:59:03 »
Thank you all.
I will keep using my upgrading procedure.But, if I ever forget to drop to runlevel 3, it is good to know that it might not spell disaster.
Just did a full-upgrade a few minutes ago and surprisingly, Discover is no more in the tray and is not installed either.  :-\