[done/solved]Atentiom, a qt6 transition is going on / Achtung

[hendrikL]

A QT6 transition is going on, so be careful when updating your system.
Eine neue Version von QT6 kommt rein, passt also auf beim Update von eurem System.

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apt full-upgrade
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Summary:
  Upgrading: 17, Installing: 0, Removing: 556, Not Upgrading: 0
  Download size: 0 B / 11,2 MB
  Freed space: 1.241 MB

Continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qt6base-abi-6.9.2.html

[onepiece]

Your post caught my attention.  I agree, something strange happened when I ran
sudo apt upgrade
at the terminal today. 

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106 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
d@d-virtualbox:~$ sudo apt upgrade
Not upgrading:                 
  libkf6colorscheme6          libqt6qmlworkerscript6       qml6-module-org-kde-kirigami
  libkf6dbusaddons-bin        libqt6quick3d6               qml6-module-qt-labs-animation
  libkf6dbusaddons6           libqt6quick3druntimerender6  qml6-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel
  libkf6globalaccel6          libqt6quick3dutils6          qml6-module-qt-labs-platform
  libkf6jobwidgets6           libqt6quick6                 qml6-module-qt-labs-qmlmodels
  libkirigami6                libqt6quickcontrols2-6       qml6-module-qt5compat-graphicaleffects
  libkirigamidelegates6       libqt6quickshapes6           qml6-module-qtcore
  libkirigamidialogs6         libqt6quicktemplates2-6      qml6-module-qtlocation
  libkirigamilayouts6         libqt6quickwidgets6          qml6-module-qtmultimedia
  libkirigamiplatform6        libqt6sensors6               qml6-module-qtpositioning
  libkirigamiprimitives6      libqt6serialport6            qml6-module-qtqml
  libkirigamiprivate6         libqt6shadertools6           qml6-module-qtqml-models
  libqcoro6core0t64           libqt6sql6                   qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript
  libqcoro6dbus0t64           libqt6sql6-mysql             qml6-module-qtquick
  libqt6bluetooth6            libqt6sql6-sqlite            qml6-module-qtquick-controls
  libqt6bluetooth6-bin        libqt6svg6                   qml6-module-qtquick-dialogs
  libqt6concurrent6           libqt6svgwidgets6            qml6-module-qtquick-effects
  libqt6core5compat6          libqt6test6                  qml6-module-qtquick-layouts
  libqt6core6t64              libqt6texttospeech6          qml6-module-qtquick-particles
  libqt6dbus6                 libqt6uitools6               qml6-module-qtquick-shapes
  libqt6gui6                  libqt6virtualkeyboard6       qml6-module-qtquick-templates
  libqt6labsplatform6         libqt6waylandclient6         qml6-module-qtquick-tooling
  libqt6location6             libqt6waylandcompositor6     qml6-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard
  libqt6multimedia6           libqt6webchannel6            qml6-module-qtquick-window
  libqt6multimediawidgets6    libqt6webchannelquick6       qml6-module-qtquick3d
  libqt6network6              libqt6webengine6-data        qml6-module-qtwebchannel
  libqt6networkauth6          libqt6webenginecore6         qml6-module-qtwebengine
  libqt6opengl6               libqt6webenginecore6-bin     qml6-module-qtwebview
  libqt6openglwidgets6        libqt6webenginequick6        qt6-gtk-platformtheme
  libqt6positioning6          libqt6webenginewidgets6      qt6-image-formats-plugins
  libqt6positioning6-plugins  libqt6websockets6            qt6-qpa-plugins
  libqt6positioningquick6     libqt6webview6               qt6-svg-plugins
  libqt6printsupport6         libqt6widgets6               qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin
  libqt6qml6                  libqt6wlshellintegration6    qt6-wayland
  libqt6qmlmeta6              libqt6xml6
  libqt6qmlmodels6            qdbus-qt6

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 106
d@d-virtualbox:~$


For "fun" I pushed my luck and ran
sudo apt full-upgrade
There was a lot of removals and installations, but when it was all over...my Siduction would only go to the log on screen, but would NOT allow me to log on. 
Luckily I had a back up of my VM so I spent no time trying to figure out what is going on.
Are you able to give more specific advice on when and how I should navigate this minefield?  Is this one of those things that will "fix itself" in a week's time?  Or???

Thank you. 

[der_bud]

It's a "normal" transition which occurs in Debian from time to time, and as long as most packages/libraries depending on each are not properly built and on the servers, one does simply not perform an upgrade.
In most cases, everything should be sorted out after a few days and full upgrades should work, apart from a few exceptional situations.

See the link in hendrikLs post as well as
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/Transitions
https://release.debian.org/transitions/index.html

[cs]

Bei mir ist die Transition eben gut durchgelaufen. Es wurden nur zwei für mich unwichtige Pakete entfernt (eines war Kdenlive, an das andere erinnere ich mich nicht), der riesige Rest wurde problemlos aktualisiert.

Ich schreibe nach einem Neustart aus dem aktualisierten System, alles bisher ohne Probleme.

Ich kann aber natürlich keine Garantie für andere Installationen übernehmen!   

[dibl]

So far, solver 3.0 is doing an excellent job of preventing damage to my KDE/Plasma systems.

[pit]

The storm seems to be over. No more packages were removed from my d-u. Everything is fine.

[hendrikL]

The storm is over for most of us.

But as always, read what apt wants to do.

[DeepDayze]

Qt is now at 6.9.2 so I'm sure that's preparation for a new KDE version to come soon and hopefully it's 6.4.5.

[devil]

It's going to be 6.5, they will skip 6.4.x altogether.

[DeepDayze]

It's going to be 6.5, they will skip 6.4.x altogether.

That sounds good as that release is a huge bugfix one and also bringing in some nice features. Perhaps an RC version as a preview?

[debsid]

It's going to be 6.5, they will skip 6.4.x altogether.

Do you happen to know the timeline for this?

[devil]

They are working on it.

[michaa7]

Ich habe seit Wochen QT libraries und damit zusammenhängende Pakete als

Aktualisiere nicht:
  kwayland-integration    libqt5qmlworkerscript5    libqt5xml5t64
  libkf5iconthemes-bin    libqt5quick5              libqt5xmlpatterns5
  libkf5iconthemes5       libqt5quickwidgets5       python3-pyqt5
  libkf5waylandclient5    libqt5sensors5            qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects
  libkf5xmlgui-bin        libqt5sql5-sqlite         qml-module-qtqml
  libkf5xmlgui5           libqt5sql5t64             qml-module-qtquick-controls
  libqt5core5t64          libqt5svg5                qml-module-qtquick-dialogs
  libqt5dbus5t64          libqt5test5t64            qml-module-qtquick-layouts
  libqt5designer5         libqt5texttospeech5       qml-module-qtquick-privatewidgets
  libqt5gui5t64           libqt5waylandclient5      qml-module-qtquick-window2
  libqt5multimedia5       libqt5waylandcompositor5  qml-module-qtquick2
  libqt5network5t64       libqt5webchannel5         qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  libqt5opengl5t64        libqt5webengine-data      qt5-image-formats-plugins
  libqt5positioning5      libqt5webenginecore5      qt5ct
  libqt5printsupport5t64  libqt5webenginewidgets5   qtspeech5-speechd-plugin
  libqt5qml5              libqt5widgets5t64         qtwayland5
  libqt5qmlmodels5        libqt5x11extras5          qtwebengine5-dev-tools

gekennzeichnet. Ich habe keine Probleme (fluxbox + lxqt). Aber ich wüßte gerne ob das so normal ist weil der Übergang noch andauert oder stimmt irgendetwas nicht. Ich habe keine Pakete auf hold!

EN:
I have the above pakages shown as "Not upgrated" since weeks. Is it normal due to the transition still ongoing or is something wrong? I have no packages actively held back.

[Pip]

I have similar and have put it down to the updates from 5 to 6 not being complete yet so though I have
qt5-image-formats-plugins 5.15.15-4
and
qt6-image-formats-plugins 6.9.2-3
I'd just thought there were still dependencies elsewhere which are keeping them from being removed, but upgrading them would be detrimental.
Just a theory, though.

[dibl]

I have all the packages shown by @michaa7 installed -- in some cases, like python3-pyqt5 there are other installed packages that depend on them (hplip-xxx). So, best to leave them installed for now.