GDM fails to start GNOME X11 sessions after recent updates (looping black screen

[n4ai9i522]

Looks like plasma-desktop has all the others as dependencies, I installed it this morning, nothing's stopping me from doing it again now and see how it fares  maybe some packages were updates in the past few hours which fix it

[n4ai9i522]

this time plasma looked like it was going to work, for the first minute, my autostarts from gnome worked, like they do in xfce, but system tools kept crashing ([Restart] [Report bug]), windows without custom controls lacket the close button, clicking on an application did not bring it foreground, I could not start my byobu terminal because of some error, had to sudo poweroff from qterminal via Alt-F2, because Super key did not work (I guess that was what crashed first) 

[n4ai9i522]

this is probably related to something that's happening to people using gdm+gnome and upgrading from fedora 42 to fedora 43
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-43-update-issue/170650

[n4ai9i522]

Mystery solved: gnome has outright removed X11 support from version 49, and I was at the time only able to use X11.
ChatGPT helped me understand the issue, and get me to reach a working Wayland environment, so now I'm back into gnome.