Update of 12-12-25 ruins the system?

[terroreek]

Would it be safe for me to upgrade but hold xkb-data (apt-mark hold xkb-data) ? I do  not get any removes if I hold xkb-data, or do you all think its better to just sit tight for now?

[michaa7]

if at all, I'd try dist-upgrade, not upgrade, because d-u would certainly avoid dependency problems.

[Teriarch]

 @terroreek

> [...], or do you all think its better to just sit tight for now?

Yes, that's maybe the best. I falsely assumed that the Debian package manager
is to blame, but it is not. The man page of  dpkg-maintscript-helper in section
"Switching a directory to symlink" clearly reads:

"If a real directory is switched to a symlink, you need to make sure before
unpacking that the directory is removed."

xkb-data version 2.46-1 does not remove directory xkb prior to symlink it.
It's not an easy task, because you must ensure that no other packages
use that same directory beforehand. In case at hand the package

keyboards-rg: /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/eo_rg

could share the directory, so the package manager keeps the directory
even if it's empty. Hence the symlink has no effect. The recent version
of package xkb-data is definitely broken since they do not follow the
guidelines of dpkg-maintscript-helper, so we have to wait...

[Teriarch]

And here we go:

<https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1122650#50>

--
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis?

The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock
By T. S. Eliot

[ro_sid]

And here we go:

<https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1122650#50>
[...]

Thanks (again) and let us keep our fingers crossed.

[Teriarch]

@ro_sid

> [...] let us keep our fingers crossed.

Yep, unfortunately w/o modification keyboard-configuration
version 1.244 does not yet play nice with xkb-data.

[seasons]

I'm also having issues with the latest mesa update wanting to remove a bunch of packages.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1123577

I said "Screw it" and updated to mesa 25.3.1 from experimental.

[T-ampfer]

couldn't boot my intel graphics HD 620 laptop today on the 17th.

please try:

Code Select Expand

# apt install libc6

then reboot the computer

[n4ai9i522]

couldn't boot my intel graphics HD 620 laptop today on the 17th.

please try:

Code Select Expand

# apt install libc6

then reboot the computer

I'm afraid that looks quite random
libc6 can't not be already install, and
dpkg -l | grep libc6
yields 3 results, for libc6, libc6-dev and libc6-i386, at version 2.42

But I am currently dist-upgrading from shell again and getting the latest kernel 6.18, xkb-data is being upgraded, mesa-va-drivers and vdpau pckages are being removed, let's see, cannot be worse than now!

[n4ai9i522]

Pleased to be the first to report that, at least in my case, the latest dist-upgrade with kernel 6.18 and xkb-data updates, and mesa-va-drivers removal, brought me to a working gnome wayland desktop.

Chatgpt told me that without mesa-va-drivers and intel hd graphics I won't have video acceleration but I can live with it.

[n4ai9i522]

on the other side, my good laptop with nvidia card, whic has been working with gnome wayland in the meantime, has had only mesa-va removed, but xkb-data still kept back...

[Teriarch]

@n4ai9i522

mesa-va has not been dropped with the 25.3 release, only mesa-vdpau support.
If you need the latter, maybe libvdpau-va-gl1 will help.

[n4ai9i522]

Looks like vdpau is available for my nvidia laptop through proprietary nvidia drivers, and is not needed at all for intel hd graphics, so I should be good about that

[Teriarch]

@n4ai9i522

> [...], so I should be good about that

Well that depends. They dropped the user space api support. If some of your applications
still needs shared library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/vdpau/libvdpau_r600.so.1.0.0, say,
then you are out of luck, unless the native nvidia drivers provide that very same library
(which I doubt).

[ruebe99]

Maybe someone has problems with cats and dogs—welcome to this thread! But is there already a solution with xkb-data? Can I install a new Siduction and run a dist-upgrade?

In case of doubt, I will share my experience regarding guinea pigs if required. Until then, I am proudly staring at a broken installation instead.
cheers