Not sure what happened, but :
Cant install kwin because libxcb-sync0 uninstallable after dist-upgrade
What are my options?
The oddities don't stop.
apt-get -s install lxde returns:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
lxde-common lxde-core lxde-icon-theme
Recommended packages:
lxmusic lxpolkit
The following NEW packages will be installed:
lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxde-icon-theme
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 62 not upgraded.
Inst lxde-common (0.5.5-6 Debian:unstable [all])
Inst lxde-core (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Inst lxde-icon-theme (0.5.0-1 Debian:unstable [all])
Inst lxde (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Conf lxde-common (0.5.5-6 Debian:unstable [all])
Conf lxde-core (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Conf lxde-icon-theme (0.5.0-1 Debian:unstable [all])
Conf lxde (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
apt-get -s install kde returns:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package 'kde' has no installation candidate
It returns the same message for a number of kde apps.
I'm not sure what has happened really.
There is no "kde" package.
Try kde-plasma-desktop, kde-standard, or kde-full, depending on how many extra programs you want included. There is also kde-plasma-netbook for small screens.
lxde looks installable.
$ apt-cache policy kde kwin
kde:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
kwin:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
I'm not sure how to get kwin by itself, though I've heard of it being used with other DEs. The gurus here may know. :)
There is no package "kde"
You have
- kde-plasma-desktop (http://packages.debian.org/kde-plasma-desktop)
- kde-plasma-netbook (http://packages.debian.org/kde-plasma-netbook)
- kde-full (http://packages.debian.org/kde-full)
- kdebase (kde-baseapps) (http://packages.debian.org/kdebase)
- kde-standard (http://packages.debian.org/kde-standard)
How exactly did you do a dist-upgrade ?
kwin
http://packages.debian.org/sid/kde-window-manager
apt-cache policy kde-window-manager
kde-window-manager:
Installed: 4:4.11.5-90r0
apt-get install kde-window-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-window-manager : Depends: libxcb-sync0 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
For dist-upgrade I went:
init 3
su
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy libxcb-sync0
libxcb-sync0:
Installed: 1.9.1-3.1
Candidate: 1.9.1-3.1
Version table:
*** 1.9.1-3.1 0
Make sure you have these 4 depends installed
http://packages.debian.org/sid/libxcb-sync0
apt-get install multiarch-support libc0.3 libc6 libxcb1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package libc0.3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
libc-bin tzdata initscripts libdb1-compat
E: Package 'libc0.3' has no installation candidate
Ouch my bad, try the 2 depends
multiarch-support
libxcb1
So sorry about that
apt-get install multiarch-support libxcb1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
multiarch-support is already the newest version.
libxcb1 is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 62 not upgraded.
apt-get install libxcb-sync0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package libxcb-sync0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package 'libxcb-sync0' has no installation candidate
What is the output of
inxi -F && inxi -Srxxx
inxi -F && inxi -Srxxx
System: Host: horse Kernel: 3.13-0.towo-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
Console: tty 2 Distro: siduction 12.1 Desperado - lxde - (201205212234)
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M3N78 PRO version: 1.XX serial: MS1C93BC1C00487
Bios: Phoenix version: ASUS M3N78 PRO 1402 date: 12/04/2009
CPU: Quad core AMD Phenom 9500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm)
Clock Speeds: 1: 2200.054 MHz 2: 2200.054 MHz 3: 2200.054 MHz 4: 2200.054 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G96 [GeForce 9400 GT]
X.org: 1.14.5 driver: nvidia tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root out of X
Audio: Card: NVIDIA MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13-0.towo-siduction-amd64
Network: Card: NVIDIA MCP77 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:24:8c:69:eb:04
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2008.4GB (90.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EADS size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST31000528AS size: 1000.2GB 3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: Cruzer_Edge size: 8.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 28G used: 11G (42%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 30G used: 8.3G (30%) fs: ext4
ID: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.10GB (5%) fs: swap
RAID: No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 57.0C mobo: 43.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 5152
Info: Processes: 229 Uptime: 2 days Memory: 1335.6/3963.7MB Runlevel: 5 Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17
System: Host: warhorse Kernel: 3.13-0.towo-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.2)
Console: tty 2 dm: kdm Distro: siduction 12.1 Desperado - lxde - (201205212234)
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/multimedia.list
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/plex.list
deb http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian squeeze main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list
deb http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main contrib non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/x2go.list
deb http://packages.x2go.org/debian wheezy main
deb-src http://packages.x2go.org/debian wheezy main
siduction 12.1 Desperado - lxde ?? ?? ??
apt-get -s install lxde returns:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
lxde-common lxde-core lxde-icon-theme
Recommended packages:
lxmusic lxpolkit
The following NEW packages will be installed:
lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxde-icon-theme
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 62 not upgraded.
Inst lxde-common (0.5.5-6 Debian:unstable [all])
Inst lxde-core (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Inst lxde-icon-theme (0.5.0-1 Debian:unstable [all])
Inst lxde (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Conf lxde-common (0.5.5-6 Debian:unstable [all])
Conf lxde-core (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Conf lxde-icon-theme (0.5.0-1 Debian:unstable [all])
Conf lxde (4+nmu2 unstable [all])
Did you purge lxde ??
Disable all repos but siduction and do
apt-get clean
init 3 && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Those other repo's probably screwed your system beyond repairable (with the exception of deb-multimedia)
A good reading will be Mary Shelbys "Frankenstein" - and piper, what do you meaning with "with the exception of deb-multimedia" :D
I didnt purge lxde as it wasnt recommended. However even after the proscribed steps kde is still not functional.
Guess I get to practice reinstalling!
If you didn't already practice reinstalling, what says
# apt-get install --reinstall plasma-desktop
?
hmm - to be honest - i dont understand the reason to rape a harmless lxde installation to be kde :D
if one want a siduction kde, one should install a siduction-kde, otherwise there is a high chance to get a system that is not maintainable with a decent amount of support
in such cases i often think to myself: it isn't siduction so why should i support it?
Quote from: dibl on 2014/02/01, 05:00:11
If you didn't already practice reinstalling, what says
# apt-get install --reinstall plasma-desktop
?
It successfully reinstalled plasma-desktop
however the Decorator problem still remains, See below.
Quote from: melmarker on 2014/02/01, 05:22:57
hmm - to be honest - i dont understand the reason to rape a harmless lxde installation to be kde :D
if one want a siduction kde, one should install a siduction-kde, otherwise there is a high chance to get a system that is not maintainable with a decent amount of support
in such cases i often think to myself: it isn't siduction so why should i support it?
Sure, I understand your point to an extent. At the time of the install I loved LXDE for a lightweight environment. I spent alot of time setting up NFS/webdav/Samba/Flexget/Plex and a number of other programs. Over time, I heard good things about KDE, which I liked back at 3.5 and decided I'd give it a try again. I liked it so much, I decided I'd run it instead of LXDE as I was using the machine more frequently as a desktop machine instead of just a file server. And I successfully ran that for around 2 years as KDE without any problems. I didn't even make any KDE changes recently that should be related.
In reality, I may have jumped to the wrong conclusion about what the real problem is. The KDE actually logs in and lets me interact with my desktop, HOWEVER applications are not being decorated (missing the close/Minimize/Maximize buttons) and when I went in to reenable those in the system settings they were gone . In doing my own research, people recommended resintalling KWIN which brought me to this point. The real answer could, in retrospect be alot easier than all that I've tried.
And sure, I could back up all my config and install default KDE and i'm sure that would fix my problem. It would also prevent me from learning what went wrong and also providing that to the community if it were to ever contribute directly to their experience or indirectly through any knowledge I had gained.
Thanks!
I think the advice you got about kwin is obsolete. Here, on KDE 4.12.1:
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy kwin
kwin:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy kde-window-manager
kde-window-manager:
Installed: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Candidate: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Version table:
*** 4:4.11.5-90r0 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ experimental-snapshots/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.11.3-90r3.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
4:4.11.3-3 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy libxcb-sync0
libxcb-sync0:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
1.9.1-3.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
root@imerabox:/home/don# Quote from: dlalias2k1 on 2014/02/01, 19:39:32
It successfully reinstalled plasma-desktop
however the Decorator problem still remains, See below.
System-settings > Workspace Appearance > Window Decorations.
Today I am using "air-oxygen-color", which I got using the "Get New Decorations" button in the lower right.
If it still comes up with no window decorations after you log in, try Alt-F2 "kwin --replace" with no quote marks.
@dlalias2k1: i understand and respect your reasons - but that doesn't change my mind.Sure you can install kde over lxde and this should work. In case of lxde there should not be so much leftover - it should simply work. For arch i had a slightly different approach: make a base installation with x and copied this template into a new partition for a new system. Later on i used to use my working installation for that. :)
An eventually good advice would be: Get the manifest of a clean kde iso and compare the packages with your system - after that you can clean up some thing, if needed - and i herby suggest the installation of siduction-settings-kde-december to get the current siduction kde settings - this will make your kde-installation nearly behave like a siduction-kde
Quote from: dibl on 2014/02/01, 20:23:53
I think the advice you got about kwin is obsolete. Here, on KDE 4.12.1:
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy kwin
kwin:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy kde-window-manager
kde-window-manager:
Installed: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Candidate: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Version table:
*** 4:4.11.5-90r0 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ experimental-snapshots/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.11.3-90r3.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
4:4.11.3-3 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy libxcb-sync0
libxcb-sync0:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
1.9.1-3.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
root@imerabox:/home/don#
Quote from: dlalias2k1 on 2014/02/01, 19:39:32
It successfully reinstalled plasma-desktop
however the Decorator problem still remains, See below.
System-settings > Workspace Appearance > Window Decorations.
Today I am using "air-oxygen-color", which I got using the "Get New Decorations" button in the lower right.
If it still comes up with no window decorations after you log in, try Alt-F2 "kwin --replace" with no quote marks.
Yea, I think that's how I originally got on the kwin and libxcb-sync0 page. "System-settings > Workspace Appearance > Window Decorations." is missing.
When trying to run "kwin --replace" from konsole I get a
bash: kwin: command not found
find / -name kwin
returns no results
Quote from: melmarker on 2014/02/02, 00:42:55
@dlalias2k1: i understand and respect your reasons - but that doesn't change my mind.Sure you can install kde over lxde and this should work. In case of lxde there should not be so much leftover - it should simply work. For arch i had a slightly different approach: make a base installation with x and copied this template into a new partition for a new system. Later on i used to use my working installation for that. :)
An eventually good advice would be: Get the manifest of a clean kde iso and compare the packages with your system - after that you can clean up some thing, if needed - and i herby suggest the installation of siduction-settings-kde-december to get the current siduction kde settings - this will make your kde-installation nearly behave like a siduction-kde
Sure, the settings package has now been installed. The issue seems to persist. I will probably tried to find the time over the next couple of weeks to backup 3.2 terbytes and reinstall the os.
Because my desktop siduction system was converted from an aptosid system without reinstalling, I don't have any of the siduction-settings-kde-xxxx packages (I could install one if I want to). But here's what controls the window decorations:
root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy systemsettings
systemsettings:
Installed: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Candidate: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Version table:
*** 4:4.11.5-90r0 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ experimental-snapshots/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.11.3-90r3.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
4:4.11.3-3 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
Hi Folks,
here i got the same situation: after a successful D-U no window decorations in KDE. The reason was quickly figured out: kde-window-manager is not installed.
apt-get install kde-window-manager
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass
Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die
Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch
nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.
Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu lösen:
Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
kde-window-manager : Hängt ab von: libxcb-sync0 ist aber nicht installierbar
E: Probleme können nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zurückgehaltene defekte Pakete.
kde-window-manager 4:4.11.3-90r3.1 from the siduction Repo has a dependency on libxcb-sync0 (wich is not available anymore)
while kde-window-manager 4:4.11.3-3 from the Debian Repo has a dependency on libxcb-sync1.
Maybe one has to wait a few days until a new version arrives in Debian or Siduction.
Quote from: karl-heinz-g on 2014/02/04, 11:11:57
Maybe one has to wait a few days until a new version arrives in Debian or Siduction.
Or enable kdenext and dist-upgrade.
$ apt-cache policy kde-window-manager
kde-window-manager:
Installed: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Candidate: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Version table:
*** 4:4.11.5-90r0 0
500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
$ apt-cache depends kde-window-manager |grep libxcb-sync
Depends: libxcb-sync1
piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy kde-window-manager
kde-window-manager:
Installed: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Candidate: 4:4.11.5-90r0
Version table:
*** 4:4.11.5-90r0 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.11.3-90r3.1 0
500 ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/siduction/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
4:4.11.3-3 0
500 http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages