hi everyone! :)
I would know if there is a way to update an .iso, to directly install the updated version?
I want to install siduction in a computer's friend, but I would install it already updated, with localization and maybe some software added. is it possible? ;)
thank you!
Our friend piper once taught me how to use pyfll to build a custom aptosid ISO, using a current kernel, whichever DE I wanted, and selected current packages, and I wrote out the procedure as I learned it, for future use. But I only used it a couple of times -- I have good Internet service (for an American ....) and just haven't needed to do that again. I would be happy to share the procedure, but I don't know if it still works like it did in 2010.
@piper ? ? ?
you could try to post your procedure, maybe it's adaptable to current iso...
it was to start from the iso, or from the installed system?
Hi dibl, building has changed dramatically over the years, the way you were taught will not work anymore.
It is more organized, and I think easier, but, I didn't feel that way at first ;).
The OP sounds like he wants a remaster, which we don't do.
Zitat von: piper in 2014/06/15, 01:49:35
Hi dibl, building has changed dramatically over the years, the way you were taught will not work anymore.
Huh -- well, that's kind of the story of my life with technology ... the stuff I knew 5 years ago is worthless today. With human nature, it all remains the same as I learned it many years ago, so that is all good! ;D
Zitat von: piper in 2014/06/15, 01:49:35The OP sounds like he wants a remaster, which we don't do.
something like that... it is not possible?
or create a persistent usb...
Persistent usb, maybe with some limitations (i.e. kernel), is possible.
I have done this several times before to have packages that I need at hand when having no internet-connection on boot-up.
The procedure to create this is included in the siduction-installer and also within an standalone-program (have a look at package install-usb-gui)
regards
Reiner
Zitat von: ReinerS in 2014/06/15, 11:44:24
Persistent usb, maybe with some limitations (i.e. kernel), is possible.
I have done this several times before to have packages that I need at hand when having no internet-connection on boot-up.
The procedure to create this is included in the siduction-installer and also within an standalone-program (have a look at package install-usb-gui)
regards
Reiner
thank you, but it doesn't work.
it doesn't find a file in the folder "/tmp/.xxxx"
hmm, never had this.
I could do apt-get updates, install packages without problems.
But I have to admit this was some months ago.
Maybe I have to give it a new try to see if something changed.
regards
Reiner
Zitat von: ReinerS in 2014/06/15, 13:25:44
hmm, never had this.
I could do apt-get updates, install packages without problems.
But I have to admit this was some months ago.
Maybe I have to give it a new try to see if something changed.
regards
Reiner
I can't start "install-usb-gui":
$ install-usb-gui.bash
/dev/sdb
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
** (zenity:17788): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
konsole(17775): "Impossibile trovare il file binario: " "/tmp/.ml1rNpXgDr"
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
Resource id: 0x4400070
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
Resource id: 0x4400051it's a fat32 usb key...
tryed siduction 2013-2014, with and without persistent option. :-[
Format it to ext2 and try again
I haven't used this in ages, so I am not sure how "up to date" this is but you can try
http://manual.siduction.org/hd-install-opts#usb-hd
and look for the
fromiso and persist on bootable USB-sticks/SD/flash-cards
section
Zitat von: piper in 2014/06/15, 14:06:58
Format it to ext2 and try again
I haven't used this in ages, so I am not sure how "up to date" this is but you can try
http://manual.siduction.org/hd-install-opts#usb-hd (http://manual.siduction.org/hd-install-opts#usb-hd)
and look for the
fromiso and persist on bootable USB-sticks/SD/flash-cards
section
done with ext2, always same error:
Avviso: Impossibile trovare «/tmp/.ZoXPa414I8», avvio di «/bin/bash» al suo posto. Controlla le impostazioni del tuo profilo.(impossible find /tm/.xxxxx, start bash. check profile settings)
Did you try it within an pure console or within an terminal-console within X ?
It should be run within X, and there should be a link on the desktop (if I remember it right) and also within the menue, probably under System.
Also I would suggest at, least with the 2013 releases, to make an apt-get update and the install the newest install-usb.gui via apt-get install install-usb-gui. I remember that there had been issuses and the newsest should be used.
regards
Reiner
I tryed with gui (menu-system), and from konsole.
I have latest version, 0.3.20.
I'm trying from another computer, it started to install it (it has required root password), then a message appeared: "grub-install failed, root-directory=/tmp/install.usb.xxxxx, device /dev/sdb STOP". ???
I just installed in onto my box.
When calling install-usb-gui.bash, here the window for the gui comes up and complains (in my case correct as I didn't prepare an usb-stick).
Do you get that far at all?
regards
Reiner
computer 1 - siduction 2013 updated
window appear, I choose sdb, persist, iso image (sid 13-kde and 14-lxqt), and then errors.
"grub-install failed, root-directory=/tmp/install.usb.xxxxx, device /dev/sdb STOP"
computer 2 - siduction 2014
I choose sdb, persist, iso image, it seems to start, a terminal requires root password, after a few seconds "grub-install failed, root-directory=/tmp/install.usb.xxxxx, device /dev/sdb STOP".
and in the stick there is now a folder "/boot/grub".
edit:
with pc 2 it starts, this is the message:
enter the root password
Password:
Grubversion: 2 - Grub2: true
O: using partition /dev/sdb1
O: mounting /dev/sdb1 on /tmp/install-usb.PMD3Wr
O: mount point ready: /tmp/install-usb.PMD3Wr
/tmp/install-usb.PMD3Wr
O: installing grub on /dev/sdb
Installing for i386-pc platform.
grub-install: avviso: Tentativo di installare GRUB su un disco con molteplici etichette di partizioni. Tale pratica non è ancora supportata..
grub-install: avviso: L'embed non è possibile. GRUB può essere installato con questa configurazione solo usando blocklist. Le blocklist non sono comunque affidabili e ne viene sconsigliato l'uso..
grub-install: errore: impossibile procedere con le blocklist.
E: grub-install failed, root-directory=/tmp/install-usb.kAAZgy, device=/dev/sdb
O: umounting /dev/sdb1 from /tmp/install-usb.kAAZgy
- trying install grub on a disk with multiple labels of partition. not yet supported...
- embed not possible. grub can be installed with this conf. only with blocklist. blocklist are not reliable.
- error: can't proceed with blocklist
Strange,
I now created an ext2-partition on an 8GB-SDcard via gparted and installed onto it.
It went completely trough without any problems. I could also boot from this card.
Could it be that the partition table on your device is broken?
Installation was done from an running Siduction 64-Bit system and used the latest 2013 64Bit XFce Release as installation image.
I also remember that there were times with some usb-sticks, but that is quite a while ago.
Anyway do you have another stick wich you could try ?
regards
Reiner
I created a new (msdos) partition table, with new ext2 partition (4gb).
I can write on it, and it start to write (installing grub - is it normal it install "for i386-pc platform"?).
I'm running 64bit and iso is also 64bit...
No, I don't have another stick. :(
"for i386-pc platform" seems to be normal, the same here.
I was picking on the partition table and the stick because of those strange messages:
grub-install: avviso: Tentativo di installare GRUB su un disco con molteplici etichette di partizioni. Tale pratica non è ancora supportata..
grub-install: avviso: L'embed non è possibile. GRUB può essere installato con questa configurazione solo usando blocklist. Le blocklist non sono comunque affidabili e ne viene sconsigliato l'uso..
grub-install: errore: impossibile procedere con le blocklist.
E: grub-install failed, root-directory=/tmp/install-usb.kAAZgy, device=/dev/sdb
O: umounting /dev/sdb1 from /tmp/install-usb.kAAZgy
4GB should normally be sufficient but i am not quite sure on the persist option. But you already tried it without it as I remember.
Maybe an complete erase of the stick via dd (dd /dev/sdx if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX) might help.
But be carefull on the sdX ! Make sure that you have the right device named or your system or data will be gone really fast !
After that you can use gparted to create the partition table and the ext2 partition and give the installation another try.
regards
Reiner
ok, I'll try.
the command is dd /dev/sdx if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX?
or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX?
The second one, well seen that there accidently is a '/dev/sdx' to much in the given command above.
Ooops. sorry, my fault >:(
I guess in your case it might be /dev/sdb as this was in some of your posts.
regards
Reiner
Good idea to always check you have the correct device ID before running dd on it. You can do this by running, immediately after plugging it in - dmesg |tail
ok, I formatted the key but it doesn't work!
I tryed with an another key and it did work!
so... I really don't know why it doesn't like the first usb key...! :o
but "persist" option seems is not working, I always lost changes...
do I have to add something at the boot?
Have you read
fromiso-persist (http://manual.siduction.org/hd-install-opts#fromiso-persist)
Zitat von: piper in 2014/06/22, 18:10:30
Have you read
fromiso-persist (http://manual.siduction.org/hd-install-opts#fromiso-persist)
thank you!
I forgot the other usb key was fat32... ;)
I will try again, I created a file-rw but for the moment I could not boot with it...