[solved]apt dist-upgrade wants to remove pulseaudio-module-udev and systemd-shim

[absolut]

last dist-upgrade was about 6 weeks ago (before summer vacations).

apt now wants to remove pulseaudio-module-udev and systemd-shim

i understand that pulseaudio-module-udev is now gone from the debian repos...

can anybody point me to how to find out why exactly systemd-shim is listed to be removed?

thanks in advance,
absolut

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apt full-upgrade -dy
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  pulseaudio-module-udev systemd-shim
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  g++-6 gfortran-6 keyutils libboost-serialization1.61.0 libebur128-1 libgfortran-6-dev libicu57:i386 libip4tc0 libip6tc0 libiptc0 liblouis10 liblouisutdml7 libmagic-mgc libmnl0 libnetfilter-conntrack3 libprocps6 libpsl5 librtaudio5a
  libstdc++-6-dev libva-drm1:i386 libva-x11-1:i386 libvdpau1:i386 libwebp6:i386 libwebpdemux2 libwebpmux2:i386 linux-headers-4.7.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 linux-image-4.7.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 python3-apt
The following packages have been kept back:
  konq-plugins
The following packages will be upgraded:
  alsa-utils apt-listchanges ark base-passwd bind9-host binutils breeze breeze-cursor-theme bsdutils calibre-bin console-setup console-setup-linux cpp cpp-5 cpp-6 cups cups-browsed cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-core-drivers
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[melmarker]

 systemd-sysv : Kollidiert mit: systemd-shim but 10-2 is to be installed
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halt andersrum

[absolut]

hi melmarker,

thanks for the response. can you also share how you got it? and which package should be preserved shim or sysv?

since i moved to systemd with siduction upgrade path, there might still be some legacy packages around. :-S

thanks
absolut

[melmarker]

i'v looked in systemd and found no conflict - so i tried to install systemd-shim and s-sysv was the conflicting package

And that make sense - one can't have both - one could go with sysv - in that case the shim is needed - or one could go with systemds - in that case it is clever to have the sysv compat layer

[absolut]

okay, thanks for the feedback.

ran dist-upgrade, and left both packages go. smooth sailing so far.

best
absolut