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Offline belze

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Is this a German distro????
« Reply #45 on: 2012/03/30, 15:06:10 »
Quote from: "devil"

The better the written german, the better the translation. But that is a theory, I do not expect that everyone writes perfect german.

greetz
devil

that's why even if i use the translator i still have to look at the original post and try to understand the meaning of each word. It is a very hard task couse i didn't study german and i just know a very few words and sentences.
I usually don't have many time and i need to check the forum quickly one a week: i usually skip threads in german because it would keep too long to read them.
Sulutions:
1- every siduction post written in german must to 100% translation valid.
or
2- please contribute a little bit with english post, more user will be attracted and this will continue this way! 8)

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« Reply #46 on: 2012/05/19, 21:27:36 »
It takes time and effort to learn how to write in English, so get over it, German guys and gals.
You are being lazy.

I has taken me years to hone my English skills, because luckily the Ogre3d community insists on English. I've been there since 2004, and now I consider myself a fluent and eloquent writer in English.

To put it bluntly: it really makes my piss boil when people writes in German in the English forum here - especially the upgrade forum - even the site admin does it.
That's not really productive IMO.
And Chrome's auto-translate feature is of no use since the forum reports the language used as English.. D'oh.

Rant over. ;)

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« Reply #47 on: 2012/05/19, 22:27:21 »
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To put it bluntly: it really makes my piss boil when people writes in German in the English forum here - especially the upgrade forum - even the site admin does it.
That's not really productive IMO.



The English forum was very recently changed to the top of the Forum site, and that is why some of the German speakers have accidentally made their posts there.  It was not intentional -- don't boil your urine -- that's not healthy.

And, it was a deliberate decision to use a single consolidated EN/DE "Upgrade Warnings" sub-forum, so all forum users can quickly find the warning in either language.

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And Chrome's auto-translate feature is of no use since the forum reports the language used as English.. D'oh.



My chromium-browser does just enough translation to make it interesting.  For example "Ich heute macht d-u" translates to "I just took a shower ..."    :lol:
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« Reply #48 on: 2012/05/20, 08:09:03 »
Hello, dear @jacmoe,

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To put it bluntly: it really makes my piss boil when people writes in German in the English forum here - especially the upgrade forum - even the site admin does it.
That's not really productive IMO.
And Chrome's auto-translate feature is of no use since the forum reports the language used as English.. D'oh.


Sorry my friend, you're new here and your behavior is very unpolite. Do you think, that your behavior here is productive in any way?

Be free to use siduction and be free to enrich our forum with friendly written threads.

Und damit Du etwas für Deinen Google Translator hast: Hier macht der Inhalt und der Ton die Musik, ob auf englisch oder auf deutsch, ich danke für Deine Aufmerksamkeit  :-)

Kind regards,
  Holger

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« Reply #49 on: 2012/05/20, 23:52:14 »
Instead of choosing to be offended, could you maybe address the issue?
I've been thinking about using Siduction, but reading the Aptosid forum instead. It's extremely disturbing having most of the urgent information in German mixed into what should be the English section of this forum.
I want to be totally sure that I am not missing something really important, especially before a d-u, and I don't feel that the Siduction forum does that for me as it is now. ;)

I've been a Siduction user for months before making use of my Siduction forum account.
Now I am not so sure if I should have.

Offline vilde

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« Reply #50 on: 2012/05/21, 00:30:07 »
I started this thread, there are also a couple of other threads about this language issue. I would say that so far it has happen a lot and that we now have the English forum on top, we have an bi-language "upgrade warning" where everybody and hopefully the moderators and team members helps to make nobody miss anything important.

The English forum on top probably shows newcomers that this is an international linux dist, and the activity have grown on the English part.

@ jacmoe it's better to have an important warning in German than no warning at all or hidden in a German forum which you are not visiting, but of cause it should be translated as soon as possible.

I would say that even with my little provocative title of this thread, siduction has so far showed up exactly what it stands for, an open active forum where the team-leaders/members care about whats written on the forum. There will be a new forum layout in the future and hopefully this will make everything even better.

Offline ReinerS

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« Reply #51 on: 2012/05/21, 00:35:54 »
Well, from my point of view the issuses you raised are already adressed and it had been worked on.
There have been arising some minor new issues (Like german-speaking/writing users (like me) now got mixed up) because of the changes but thoses will also be adressed and fixed in a not so far future. :lol:

So, what actually is your point ? As far as I have read on those english/german threads your issuses have been taken up seriously and most things have been solved already or will be soon.
And, not to forget, you have been treated much more friendly as ist was the case in some earlier and even some existing forums that I have had experienxes with.

So I cannot/willnot subscribe to:
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Instead of choosing to be offended, could you maybe address the issue?

and suggest instead that it might be very helpfull even for you to try to implement a little bit "nicer" tone when raising issues in your posts.
I guess that was the message that Holger friendly tried to deliver to you, nothing to do with being offended :wink:

regards

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« Reply #52 on: 2012/05/21, 03:09:08 »
Only my POV: if someone put a warning or Warnung in the upgrade section, my first view is wich packages are involved. Mostly this is enough information for me. My reacton is: Be careful, it can bite me.

So in these cases the language around the packages is not so important. It can be russian, the fact that it is in Warnings should be all we need.
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« Reply #53 on: 2012/05/21, 11:51:59 »
I tend to agree with agaida. The only suggestion I would make is to cut and paste the system's du warnings report into a quote box. I say this because in my experience whereas we mortals tend to express ourselves in the colloquial language of our individual locale the system report is  precise and succinct and retains it's meaning even when translated into another language. The apt devs have spent years honing the language used in apt's reports until it is precision and translatable and we should take advantage of that.

Offline Sir_Aim

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« Reply #54 on: 2012/05/21, 15:52:58 »
I think it would be a good idea to post apt output within the warnings section always prefixed by LANG=C.

Code: [Select]
LANG=C apt-get ...

Offline cryptosteve

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« Reply #55 on: 2012/05/21, 16:25:27 »
Very good idea, Sir_Aim .. I'll test that with the next upgrades.
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« Reply #56 on: 2012/05/22, 08:01:38 »
I guess an apology is in order: sorry guys. :)

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« Reply #57 on: 2012/05/22, 15:17:26 »
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I guess an apology is in order: sorry guys. :)


Hi @jacmoe,

I suggest, as a compensation you've to install our new siduction 2012.1. You've the choose between kde, lxde or xfce ;-)

Wellcome here at siduction.org.

Kind regards,
  Holger

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« Reply #58 on: 2012/05/28, 08:09:25 »
Hehe.
I've been running Siduction for a couple of months already. :)
KDE all the way for me.
I used Aptosid a while ago, then moved to Arch Linux.
When I upgraded my machine, I needed to reinstall, and Arch was (still is, I suppose) impossible to install due to lots of bugs.
So I went with Siduction.
I don't regret that decision. ;)