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Offline ayla

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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #15 on: 2013/12/07, 14:23:54 »
 
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apt-cache policy libreoffice
libreoffice:
  Installiert:           1:4.1.3-1+b0+b1
  Installationskandidat: 1:4.1.3-1+b0+b1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 1:4.1.3-1+b0+b1 0
        500 ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:4.1.3-1 0
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
My libreoffice now comes from siduction/fixes repo, not from debian.
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #16 on: 2013/12/07, 14:26:13 »
Quote from: johnlittle001
Yes, I first ran apt-get update

Perhaps my mirror has not yet been refreshed (I use http://ftp.us.debian.org)
Probably the problem, I use that mirror also, just wait it out (libreoffice still wants to be removed here too)
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #17 on: 2013/12/07, 14:37:57 »
I am using the genric mirror  http://http.debian.net , which flawlessly works here since two or three years.
Could you/someone test if that circumvents the problem (of a mirror being updated haltingly)?
« Last Edit: 2013/12/07, 14:45:43 by michaa7 »
Ok, you can't code, but you still might be able to write a bug report for Debian's sake

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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #18 on: 2013/12/07, 15:01:21 »
I thought that I would give your suggestion a try.  I edited my sources list to substituted http.debian.net for ftp.us.debian, then did an update and the then attempted an upgrade but the results were the same (it wanted to remove Libreoffice).

I've switched back to the earlier mirror and I guess I'll try again tomorrow.

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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #19 on: 2013/12/07, 15:18:37 »
Hm, but it should solve the problem:
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  The redirector uses the geo and network location of the user and the mirrors, the architecture of the requested files, IP address family, the availability and freshness of the mirrors ...
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Advantages over a good old, specific mirror
No offline mirrors
No out of date mirrors


So mayby it's worth to investigate further on http://http.debian.net/ website. There is a demonstration which gives you some hints. And if it still does not work, maybe it would be an opportunity to get in contact with the author.
But maybe it is a limitation by design:
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The population may be bigger than the number of mirrors listed above, meaning there were other candidates but they were not considered because of their distance to you
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #20 on: 2013/12/07, 18:01:19 »
http://mirror.debian.org/status.html - if you have problems with your mirror, have a look at the status. The mirrors sync all 6 hours, if not broken. Waiting for a few hours may fix bad behaviours of apt eventually.

Beside of that - if we provide fixes - libreoffice in that special case - the mirrors are not broken, but some of them sync only one time a day, so it can take up to two days in the worst case until our fixes reach our mirrors :)

Edit: One can check the state of our mirrors with http://mirrorstats.siduction.org/
« Last Edit: 2013/12/07, 18:06:13 by melmarker »
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #21 on: 2013/12/07, 18:43:21 »
The LO and harfbuzz problems appear to be resolved, but cups and other printing packages (foomatic-filters, hplip, hpijs-ppds) are still in a mess.
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #22 on: 2013/12/07, 18:44:11 »
using http://mirror.debian.org/status.html shows that mirror.cc.columbia.edu (NY),  debian.lcs.mit.edu (MASS) or debian.gtisc.gatech.edu (GA) seem the first us mirrors to be updated (They are now whereas other us mirros ( like ftp.us.debian.org ) are still behind!).
Maybe it's worth to keep one of them as primary or secondary source?


@ dibl
foomatic-filters are replaced, and as to hpijs-ppds, I let it go.
« Last Edit: 2013/12/07, 18:56:54 by michaa7 »
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #23 on: 2013/12/07, 18:59:08 »

@ dibl
foomatic-filters are replaced ....


Hmmmm -- well, perhaps they will be, but


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root@imerabox:/# apt-cache depends printer-driver-foo2zjs
printer-driver-foo2zjs
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libcups2
  Depends: libjbig0
  Depends: python3
  Depends: xz-utils
    xz-utils:i386
  Depends: foomatic-filters
    cups-filters
  Depends: dc
    dc:i386
  Suggests: psutils
.
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So I'm not sure I can expect to print on my HP 1606dn without it.


and


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root@imerabox:/# apt-get install foomatic-filters
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  ghostscript-cups
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cups cups-filters hplip printer-driver-gutenprint printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  foomatic-filters ghostscript-cups
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/224 kB of archives.
After this operation, 4,941 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #24 on: 2013/12/07, 19:11:23 »
It seems this is still an ongoing transition. Read: "apt-cache show cups-filters". cups-ghostscript is replaced, too, but sure it is better to wait until cups transition is completed as not all packages seem updated to their new dependencies.
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #25 on: 2013/12/08, 01:01:31 »
dibl:
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aptitude show cups-filters

You will see that the foomatic filters now are provided by cups-filters.
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #26 on: 2013/12/08, 02:39:09 »
dibl:
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aptitude show cups-filters

You will see that the foomatic filters now are provided by cups-filters.

Yes, I saw that. But I cannot actually get them to work. I will try some more...

Never mind. It is working again.

Tim
« Last Edit: 2013/12/08, 03:02:30 by melmarker »
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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #27 on: 2013/12/08, 03:12:07 »
Nope.  Here in North America, we are still waiting ...


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root@imerabox:/# apt-get install foomatic-filters
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  ghostscript-cups
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cups cups-filters hplip printer-driver-gutenprint printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  foomatic-filters ghostscript-cups
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/224 kB of archives.
After this operation, 4,941 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
root@imerabox:/# apt-get install cups-filters
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
cups-filters is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


Perhaps tomorrow ......

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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #28 on: 2013/12/08, 03:33:47 »
dibl, I meant that my printer is working without the foomatic-filters, which were removed this morning. It is apparently working with the cups-filters package, as melmarkers said, above. I did not even have to change the printer configuration.

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Re: [solved] don't d-u until further notice
« Reply #29 on: 2013/12/08, 13:21:30 »
To make situations like the one in this thread easier to grasp, the package daptup might be helpful
http://screenshots.debian.net/package/daptup


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