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Offline musca

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Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« on: 2014/10/12, 22:15:22 »

Welcome Cinnamon as a new member in the siduction family!

Please try it and state your opinion here. Ideas are welcome!

greetings
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #1 on: 2014/10/12, 23:38:11 »
As a staunch KDE-user I really like it, nice face, nice handling; it may be worth to think of a change.

The only deficit for me compared to KDE I could find when playing about an hour or so is that I cant use different background  images on my two monitors, but thats a really minor one.

To the live image is to say: No german keyboard layout although I choosed F2 -> german at the bootscreen, not on console, not on iceweasel.
Haven't installed yet, but will give it a try tomorrow.

Thanks for your effort offering this to the siduction users.

greets ayla
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #2 on: 2014/10/13, 00:39:59 »
Collection of suggestions for missing applications

We want GTK Apps, ofcourse! But we are free to decide and enjoy having choice!

Category Included Application  Suggestion / To Do 
Wordprocessor Abiword Libreoffice / LO was too fat for a Dev-Release
Spreadsheet Gnumeric  ?
Documentviewer Evince    ?
Browser Iceweasel  i.e. Debians Firefox-clone
Browser-Plugins Flash not preinstalled HTML5 ftw!
Mail Icedove  the Thunderbird-clone in Debian
Audioplayer Rythmbox audacious
Videoplayer Totem  gnome-mplayer + gecko
IRC-Client Hexchat ?
Editor Medit, Gvim juffed, geany, gedit, leafpad, ... / remove gvim!
Terminal Gnome-Terminal  ?
Dropdown-Terminal Guake    removed / had to disable "use system fixed width font"
File-Manager Nemo, File-Roller  ?  /  more plugins?
         
Soundmixer  veromix -gtk-tray-app for pulseaudio   
Messenger --    ?   /   Icedove does support some messenger protocols
Screenshot siduction-paste -s kazam, shutter, gnome-screenshot, scrot 


 (to be continued, this is work in progress)
 
« Last Edit: 2014/11/02, 17:12:56 by musca »
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #3 on: 2014/10/13, 02:05:01 »
You already know that I like it ;)
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #4 on: 2014/10/13, 03:20:48 »
I hope you folks will post some screenshots.  I haven't seen cinnamon since leigh was working on the Fedora version back when Fedora 16 was around.  While I'm really comfortable with KDE, one never knows what will happen when Frameworks 5 is released.  It would be nice to have a backup plan, just in case there's a repeat of KDE 4.0.
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #5 on: 2014/10/13, 09:08:07 »
Hi GoingEasy9,
KDE with the Framework 5 is certainly a highlight, I'm looking forward already.
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #6 on: 2014/10/13, 13:06:19 »
GoinEasy9, the bigger version of the screenshot which devil used in the Releasnote/News is here:
 https://mediacru.sh/0SzGhyvDU6Wt.png, one of mine http://paste.siduction.org/20141013110224.png

Ayla, the F2 thing is here too and is already in work, Bug #1716.
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Edit: while posting have seen that Ayla already contributed to #1716.
« Last Edit: 2014/10/13, 13:09:36 by der_bud »
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #7 on: 2014/10/13, 19:42:49 »
Thanks for the responses, and the links to the screenshots.  I missed the one devil posted earlier.

As far as Frameworks 5, I'm excited for it also.  I'm just hoping it's fully functional when it's dropped into sid.

Thanks again.
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #8 on: 2014/10/13, 20:32:25 »
some remarks to cinnamon:


i just installed to HD:


The sizes of the partitions shown in the installer are wrong? Second window at the bottom of the installer.


Only ntfs partitions are mountable in the left paine of nemo(?)


Other linuxes on my Hds (ext4) are missing.


Lightdm doesn't remember last logged in user and session ( -> cinnamon )


funny:
The file fstab wants to be opened by a huge picture of vim -logo [ vim: my personal horror-editor :-)) ]


... i'm really interested in cinnamon, so thanks for your work!

« Last Edit: 2014/10/13, 20:45:21 by JohnML »

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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #9 on: 2014/10/13, 21:20:12 »
Lightdm doesn't remember last logged in user and session ( -> cinnamon )
  -- right, thats true and the normal behaviour in all siduction flavours
Other linuxes on my Hds (ext4) are missing.
  -- really?
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #10 on: 2014/10/14, 00:07:12 »
Other linuxes on my Hds (ext4) are missing.
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Try to run os-prober, that should fix it.


greetz
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #11 on: 2014/10/14, 00:55:28 »
Lightdm doesn't remember last logged in user and session ( -> cinnamon )
  -- right, thats true and the normal behaviour in all siduction flavours
...

This annoyance at each login is the reason why I always install kdm over lightdm.
Ok, you can't code, but you still might be able to write a bug report for Debian's sake

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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #12 on: 2014/10/14, 02:16:57 »
ok - standard security is annoying - no need to argue, thats a fact.
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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #13 on: 2014/10/14, 12:10:38 »
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the Firefox-clone in Debian (and no flash, by design!)

what does this mean?

Tried to apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but can't get it to work :(

works, but had to logout and in again?
greets
ayla
« Last Edit: 2014/10/14, 12:14:32 by ayla »
Kernel: 4.9.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64
Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.8.4  (Qt 5.7.1)
(mostly)kept current siduction "15.1.0 Paint it Black"
Notebook: HP 15 ay045ng; MoBo: HP model: 81EF v: 63.26
Dual core Intel Core i3-5005U 
Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)
 Intel Wireless 7265 / iwlwifi

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Re: Discuss the siduction-cinnamon dev-release
« Reply #14 on: 2014/10/14, 12:26:35 »
Other linuxes on my Hds (ext4) are missing.
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Try to run os-prober, that should fix it.


greetz
devil

.. tried with os-prober, fstab looks ok now  but all the linux partitions are mounted at /disks