when to update iceweasel?

[tux]

Maybe Ubuntu people have already packaged up-to-date firefox to their PPAs and maybe it also installable to siduction.

[melmarker]

never ever think of. never!

[piper]

Maybe Ubuntu people have already packaged up-to-date firefox to their PPAs and maybe it also installable to siduction.

Ouch, trouble is ubuntu and debian aren't binary compatible, read the link in my sig

If you want an up-to-date firefox, use nightly, I've been using it since the day it came out, reminds me of sid, updates once or more a day, never had a problem with it.

my nightly version as of today and will be upgraded probably around 9:00 am EST    -    42.0a1 (2015-08-07)

[michaa7]

Maybe Ubuntu people have already packaged up-to-date firefox to their PPAs and maybe it also installable to siduction.

...
If you want an up-to-date firefox, use nightly, I've been using it since the day it came out, reminds me of sid, updates once or more a day, never had a problem with it.

So which repo do you use?

Here I only find experimental, but no nightly.

Edit:

Ok, you are using FF not IW. So you simply d/l and untar it into an user/home/XY directory?

[sedonix]

If you want the latest and greatest Iceweasel, add this to your sources.

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deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-aurora

41.0~a2420150711004006-1

[melmarker]

oh, cool, another useless suggestion for the moment - please mention that we are in a fucking big transition right now and some combinations of several packages just dont work atm™

[piper]

Quote from: piper on Today at 07:58:28 AMQuote from: tuxMaybe Ubuntu people have already packaged up-to-date firefox to their PPAs and maybe it also installable to siduction....
If you want an up-to-date firefox, use nightly, I've been using it since the day it came out, reminds me of sid, updates once or more a day, never had a problem with it.
So which repo do you use?

Here I only find experimental, but no nightly.

Edit:

Ok, you are using FF not IW. So you simply d/l and untar it into an user/home/XY directory?

You can use either /home or /opt, I use /opt, I have used /home many times, neither gave me a problem


I use my /.mozilla folder across different distro's , (linux) roms, (android)  and windows with no problems, it just works.

I use nightly on android also

[vilde]

I have a question. I have since some time used Iceweasel from debian experimental, installed is " Version: 39.0.3-1" As I don't really understand if there is a difference between versions from experimental and unstable I just want to ask: Is my version ok or also not good?

[melmarker]

have a look at the output:

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# apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installiert:           (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 38.1.1esr-1
  Versionstabelle:
     39.0.3-1 0
          1 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
     38.1.1esr-1 0
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     38.1.0esr-3 0
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages

39.0.3 is the current version, but because the slots in unstable and testing are blocked by the esr-version, Sounds stupid, but isn't. unstable and testing are the internal distributions to develop the next stable, so having esr in testing and unstable make sense. so only experimental is left for the current release. Thats where the mozilla repository jumps in. So there is no good and no bad - the esr is conservative and fine with long term support, the current release is fine, beta and aurora is for people who are cool and don't do any useful work  with the browser (aka web design or such things) (sorry, devil )

the beta and aurora versions are fine too - but have often problems with correct rendering, which make them not feasable for webdesign, but mostly for daily browsing - and the more people use them and report useful bugs (rendering, new implemented functionality and so on) the better the finally released version will be.

[vilde]

So both have a fix for the exploit, ok

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# apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installerad: 39.0-1
  Kandidat:    39.0-1
  Versionstabell:
     39.0.3-1 0
          1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
*** 39.0-1 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     38.1.1esr-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages[/code


[KrunchTime]

One way to get the newest "iceweasel" is to download firefox and run it from a folder in your user directory, no installation needed and it will use all your settings/bookmarks from iceweasel.

+1  I learned to do this awhile ago via a tip over in the CrunchBang forums.  On new installs, I always purge Iceweasel and just use the stand alone version of Firefox.

[KrunchTime]

Maybe Ubuntu people have already packaged up-to-date firefox to their PPAs and maybe it also installable to siduction.

But you don't even need to use an Ubuntu PPA.  Just download the archived folder from Mozilla, decompress the folder and move to your preferred location; e.g. /home/<user>/bin.  Firefox can be updated via the About Firefox menu option; very simple, very easy.

I can't speak for getting the appropriate entry in the menu system of whatever desktop environment one may use.  I use openbox and it's very simple to create a menu entry for the openbox menu.

[seasons]

oh, cool, another useless suggestion for the moment - please mention that we are in a fucking big transition right now and some combinations of several packages just dont work atm™

At your own suggestion, I think you need more beer and/or popcorn.

[domicius]

If you want the latest and greatest Iceweasel, add this to your sources.

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deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-aurora

41.0~a2420150711004006-1

sedonix, unfortunately, this isn't the latest and greatest from Mozilla. In fact, the bug isn't solved in this version, as you can see, this version is from July 11th.

I have a question. I have since some time used Iceweasel from debian experimental, installed is " Version: 39.0.3-1" As I don't really understand if there is a difference between versions from experimental and unstable I just want to ask: Is my version ok or also not good?

So both have a fix for the exploit, ok

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# apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installerad: 39.0-1
  Kandidat:    39.0-1
  Versionstabell:
     39.0.3-1 0
          1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
*** 39.0-1 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     38.1.1esr-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages[/code


vilde, both versions don't have the fix, only the 39.0.3 and as per your last "apt-cache policy iceweasel" result, it looks like you don't have the fixed version installed.

[melmarker]

apt-get changelog iceweasel
apt-get changelog iceweasel/experimental

  * New upstream release.
  * Fixes for mfsa2015-78, also known as CVE-2015-4495.
-- Mike Hommey <glandium@debian.org>  Fri, 07 Aug 2015 ...

hmm - and i trust Mike somewhat, i think he knows what he is doing. And i think it was wise that vilde has asked _before_ the update. But thats only my opinion.