Hello! Need help in getting siduction

Started by bonbonboi, 2016/02/02, 20:25:28

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bonbonboi

Hello, would someone please help me to understand the download tree
indiansummer > I need to know what's nox & xorg

dibl

Hi and welcome!


nox is no X.  It is a character-mode only OS.  The others have the X server and the various desktop environments.



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bonbonboi

Quote from: dibl on 2016/02/02, 20:43:31
Hi and welcome!


nox is no X.  It is a character-mode only OS.  The others have the X server and the various desktop environments.

I see, thanks  :D

bonbonboi

Quote from: dibl on 2016/02/02, 20:43:31
Hi and welcome!


nox is no X.  It is a character-mode only OS.  The others have the X server and the various desktop environments.

but still I do not know what xorg iso is  :-\

towo

It's a minimal iso which provides a minimal x environment with fluxbox i think.

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bonbonboi

Okay, no probelm, I picked up the xfce iso, because I like that DE  ;D

tmhind2


HotChilliPepper

Hello bonbonboi,
I would recommend you to try the KDE- or GnomeISO from paintitblack folder, if your device more or less up to date. These are the most common Graphical User Interfaces under Linux and are both easy to understand.
If your machine is older you should perhaps try LXQT or XFce which need less resources, but you'll find your way through the menus and programs, too.
Nox is used for servers or stuff like that. And Xorg is somewhat for people who like it minimalistic.

Hope that helps, Timo

bonbonboi

Quote from: HotChilliPepper on 2016/02/02, 21:58:14
Hello bonbonboi,
I would recommend you to try the KDE- or GnomeISO from paintitblack folder, if your device more or less up to date. These are the most common Graphical User Interfaces under Linux and are both easy to understand.
If your machine is older you should perhaps try LXQT or XFce which need less resources, but you'll find your way through the menus and programs, too.
Nox is used for servers or stuff like that. And Xorg is somewhat for people who like it minimalistic.

Hope that helps, Timo

Thanks for this comprehensive reply, I'm now on siduction linux, 2014-11-21 amd64.  I'm worry to update it since I heard there is something wrong with the sources list. When I ask it to update, it gives me a long package list to be removed. I have updated the source list at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ by those ones posted recently on this forum as follows
I have three files in there : debian.list , misc.list, siduction.list
debian.list:
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

misc.list: all lines commented out

seduction.list:
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/extra unstable main
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes unstable main contrib non-free

What do you advice?  ???

melmarker

Install the latest release - even if it is a -dev release
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bonbonboi

Quote from: melmarker on 2016/02/02, 23:53:12
Install the latest release - even if it is a -dev release

No way  :o

first time I heard about siduction linux, I picked up the "paintitblack" xfce amd64, it's DRAFT copy, I hate myself that much when I was on it, I thought that's the siduction linux, after some days and today I said to myself why not to try to previous one 2014, now I'm on it. You know that long time I looking for a "sid" linux distro, I found siduction distro, I'm giving it a try now  ;D

bonbonboi

No problem, I found out that big list of packages to be installed, not be removed, hehe kinda getting sleepy sometimes  :P

musca

Hello bonbonboi,

nice to see you found your way :)

yes, XFCE should be quite easily dist-upgradable. 
KDE would be more difficult (4.x to 5.x migration, work in progress).

Have fun!
musca
,,Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt."  (Goethe, Faust)

bonbonboi

I need to know what Debian Linux am I using, would someone help to find out my correct distro , I want to download an app, I need to choose the correct file, there are Debian 8 ("Jessie"), Debian 7 ("Wheezy") and Debian 6 ("Squeeze").

dieres

siduction is sid=unstable. Newer than Jessie = stable. So if you cannot find your app through the packagemanager apt you can try jessie packages but not wheeezy or squeeze.
The recommend way to install is :
1. "apt update" to update the package list
2. "apt install <package-name>"  to install <package-name>