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Offline samoht

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KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« on: 2017/09/02, 13:25:26 »

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6809.msg55490#msg55490
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... cause I am running KDE Plasma 5.10.5
@piper, just out of curiosity, did you install KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from the experimental repo?
Is that already satisfactorily stable?
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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #1 on: 2017/09/02, 19:01:10 »
I do not advise or recommend unless you know how to fix or ready to reinstall

PAY ATTENTION TO APT

Mind you, I use a source no-one recommends and have used it since day one (mythtv), all my builds include it also, I just never had a problem (politics & epoch) with it.

The day I installed from experimental, this is what it looked like, and I installed.

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root@x1:/home/piper# apt update; apt full-upgrade -t experimental -s
Get:1 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable InRelease [58.1 kB]
Hit:2 http://10.10.10.3:3142/mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:3 http://10.10.10.3:3142/deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
Hit:4 http://10.10.10.3:3142/mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/siduction/extra unstable InRelease
Hit:5 http://10.10.10.3:3142/packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease
Get:6 http://10.10.10.3:3142/www.deb-multimedia.org sid InRelease [22.0 kB]
Get:7 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable/main i386 Packages [197 kB]
Get:8 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable/main amd64 Packages [196 kB]
Get:9 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable/main Translation-en [171 kB]
Get:10 http://10.10.10.3:3142/www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main i386 Packages [150 kB]
Get:11 http://10.10.10.3:3142/www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main amd64 Packages [148 kB]
Fetched 942 kB in 4s (224 kB/s)                             
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
26 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
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« Last Edit: 2017/09/02, 19:19:24 by piper »
Free speech isn't just fucking saying what you want to say, it's also hearing what you don't want to fucking hear

I either give too many fucks or no fucks at all, it's like I cannot find a middle ground for a moderate fuck distribution, it's like what the fuck

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #2 on: 2017/09/02, 19:20:44 »
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System:    Host: x1 Kernel: 4.12.10-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.10.5
           Distro: siduction 17.1.0 Patience - kde - (201708240114)
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-970A-UD3 v: x.x BIOS: Award v: F7 date: 10/22/2012
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 1400 MHz 2: 1400 MHz 3: 2000 MHz 4: 2500 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM204 [GeForce GTX 970]
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.3 ) drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 970/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 381.22
Free speech isn't just fucking saying what you want to say, it's also hearing what you don't want to fucking hear

I either give too many fucks or no fucks at all, it's like I cannot find a middle ground for a moderate fuck distribution, it's like what the fuck

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #3 on: 2017/09/02, 20:25:13 »
@piper, thanks vor paying attention and detailed info.
Greetings,
Tom

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #4 on: 2017/09/05, 14:12:48 »
I am using that version and after few hours plasmashell is freezing  so I cannot use the window but the plasmoid are wroking (animations).The only way is to go to another tty, kill plasmashell and re run plasmashell.

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #5 on: 2017/09/05, 21:34:13 »
The only freeze I have is logging in, it takes a good minute to two minutes to get to the desktop, other than that, I have no problems, once to the desktop, it works, no lag,freezing,etc..
Free speech isn't just fucking saying what you want to say, it's also hearing what you don't want to fucking hear

I either give too many fucks or no fucks at all, it's like I cannot find a middle ground for a moderate fuck distribution, it's like what the fuck

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #6 on: 2017/09/05, 22:41:15 »
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The only freeze I have is logging in ....


I saw that issue during the flood of plasma/kde updates over the past weekend, only on one old computer, but the last round of updates seems to have fixed it.
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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #7 on: 2017/09/06, 00:17:10 »
my 5.8 is crasing from time to time... every 12-16 hours... so no stable Plasma right now... Lets hope 5.10 comes to sid soon.

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #8 on: 2017/09/06, 10:11:51 »
As I can see freeze and if I wait too much time the keyboard is blocked so I cannot switch.I can see when this is happening when the ram consume is becoming huge like 5 gb of ram but the crash doesn't contain useful information.

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #9 on: 2017/09/06, 14:20:41 »
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As I can see freeze and if I wait too much time the keyboard is blocked so I cannot switch.I can see when this is happening when the ram consume is becoming huge like 5 gb of ram but the crash doesn't contain useful information.

I am curious to know how you installed and what packages you use.
I have nothing from  "kdepim"  installed (kmail, etc)

I now have this installed on 3 of my 4 machines, all run good except the login hiccup.

Two machines nvidia, one amd for video.

** NOTE **  I highly recommend waiting for KDE Plasma 5.10.5 in sid, as this is taken from experimental and is not for everybody and can break your system worse than sid ever can ;)
« Last Edit: 2017/09/06, 14:44:53 by piper »
Free speech isn't just fucking saying what you want to say, it's also hearing what you don't want to fucking hear

I either give too many fucks or no fucks at all, it's like I cannot find a middle ground for a moderate fuck distribution, it's like what the fuck

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #10 on: 2017/09/06, 14:37:34 »
I am using from experimental and nvidia with also kpim but from the log as I can remember the issue was on the screen and not from the software installed

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #11 on: 2017/09/06, 15:20:02 »
https://paste.kde.org/p547t6vnp The crash log, this time plasmashell is crashed and I got the error wihtout so many problems.

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #12 on: 2017/09/06, 15:40:15 »
While I don't have time at the moment to search this, but, might be related to Qt Creator

Older, but ...

https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40445
Free speech isn't just fucking saying what you want to say, it's also hearing what you don't want to fucking hear

I either give too many fucks or no fucks at all, it's like I cannot find a middle ground for a moderate fuck distribution, it's like what the fuck

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #13 on: 2017/09/08, 10:10:24 »
The issue keep happening but I have no idea about what to do.I am using nvidia and I think that from the log there aren't useful information.Sometimes plasmashell crash and restart without anything by me or sometimes when I see that the system is freezing I kill the process.The other day was gettning like 8 gb of ram and VLC wasn't working of too much of ram used, so when I see that take like more of 2gb of ram I kill the process.

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Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
« Reply #14 on: 2017/09/10, 22:03:23 »
https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6826.msg55560#msg55560
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The only freeze I have is logging in, it takes a good minute to two minutes to get to the desktop ...

Confirmed on my (test) machine.

Greetings,
Tom