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Offline vayu

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New ISO?
« on: 2020/02/15, 03:35:45 »
I only see an ISO from 2 years ago.  Is there a newer one somewhere that I'm missing?

I've got a new computer and want a fresh install.

Would it be better to tar over my current install than to install something far behind in updates?
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Offline devil

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #1 on: 2020/02/15, 06:40:37 »
There is some fresher images here: https://isobuilds.siduction.org/
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #2 on: 2020/02/16, 00:50:23 »
isos die *nicht* network-manager enthalten, was enthalten die stattdessen?

Ich habe jetzt eine halbe Stunde in folgendem xorg-manifest gesucht:

https://isobuilds.siduction.org/xorg/siduction-patience-xorg-amd64-latest.manifest

 und nichts *mir Bekanntes* gefunden.
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #3 on: 2020/02/16, 01:04:29 »
Michaa7: Steht in den Releasenotes - dhclient als root - das spiegelt die momentane Realität wieder - inxi konnte es nicht mehr, dhclient gibt nen netzwerkzugang - um den Rest muss sich $user selbst kümmern. Mag hart klingen, ist aber genau so geplant gewesen. Viel Freiheit bedeutet sehr viel Wissen und Verantwortung beim User, grd bei diesem Image.
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Offline vayu

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #4 on: 2020/02/16, 09:01:32 »
Thank you.  What's the difference between the patience ones and the experimental ones?  Also were the posts above saying there's no network manager and I'll have to set up networking from the command line?

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Offline vayu

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #5 on: 2020/02/16, 09:20:13 »
PS, I see the versions from the manifest are new in Patience. Thanks for those.
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #6 on: 2020/02/16, 11:44:14 »
ich hatte mir drei mal überlegt ob ich diese frage stelle weil ich natürlich mutmaßen musste das du es dir nicht nehmen lässt zu antworten.
Quote from: melmarker on 2020/02/16, 01:04:29
...Mag hart klingen, ist aber genau so geplant gewesen. ...
Dieses erziehungsgeschwafel ist halt nunmal dein ding ...
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #7 on: 2020/02/16, 15:13:12 »
Nix Erziehungsgeschwafel - Release Notes lesen hätte gereicht. Und ich war eigentlich recht froh, Dich sehr lange nicht gelesen zu haben. Ich hatte schon die Hoffung, dass es sich mit Dir und Siduction erledigt hätte. Schade, dass nicht.
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #8 on: 2020/02/16, 19:21:10 »
@melmarker

You were nicer than I would have been ;) I am trying :)
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #9 on: 2020/02/17, 23:10:48 »
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Nix Erziehungsgeschwafel - Release Notes lesen hätte gereicht.

Und wo finde ich die, ohne das iso erst herunterzuladen und zu installieren/extrahieren?


@piper,
Your funny comment is out of place here.

« Last Edit: 2020/02/20, 18:08:27 by piper »
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Offline oduffo

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #10 on: 2020/02/18, 10:29:01 »
Quote from: samoht
Und wo finde ich die, ohne das iso erst herunterzuladen und zu installieren/extrahieren?

Schaust du hier:

https://i.imgur.com/12LRWbG.jpg

Gruß
oduffo
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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #11 on: 2020/02/18, 10:49:08 »
@oduffo,

dieser Bereich war, leider, aus meinem Blickfeld verschwunden.  :(
Vielen Dank für Deinen Hinweis.

Greetings,
Tom
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Offline vayu

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #12 on: 2020/02/18, 21:02:50 »
The installer locks up upon getting to the desktop. It does get that far but is completely locked up.  I have been able to get to the console if I quickly crtl-alt-f1 right before the desktop is drawn. 

I suspect it's the noveau drivers. I'm using an AMD Rizen 7 with no built in graphics with an NVidia gtx660 card.
Is there somewhere I could find a list of the installer steps from the command line? 

I have no idea what command line options it takes to actually install the system.
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Offline der_bud

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #13 on: 2020/02/18, 21:26:25 »
If you manage to get to the console, you can use the cli-installer from there.
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Offline sunrat

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Re: New ISO?
« Reply #14 on: 2020/02/19, 08:02:58 »
You could try a kernel option by editing GRUB during boot. nomodeset has worked for me on occasion but I think more correctly is:
Code: [Select]
nouveau.modeset=0
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