Debian KDE/QT Team - Whats Up?

[samoht]

https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/06/waste-of-resources-bye-bye-debian-kde-team/

WTF?
Ridiculous!

[dsat]

snafu

[hsp]

discontinued

[devil]

Norbert Preining will go on publishing his KDE packages as he had before. Working with the KDE/Qt team did not work out for historical reasons. Norbert is one to speak up and there is a cabal in Debian that dislikes that. So he was stripped of his developer rights 2 or 3 years ago. And on the KDE/Qt team there is at least one guy who disliked him helping out. Debian in some corners is not a nice place to work in.

I am using Norbert's packages from the start, and they work fine for me.

[samoht]

@devil,

fully agree. Norbert's packages work here without a hitch.

[dibl]

What is the repo for Norbert's KDE packages?

Thanks!

[hschn]

Hello Dibl

https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/05/kde-plasma-5-18-5-for-debian/

it works

[axt]

Completely: Debian Package Archive @ preining.info

Sources: https://github.com/norbusan?tab=repositories

[dibl]

Hello Dibl

https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/05/kde-plasma-5-18-5-for-debian/

it works

Vielen dank!

EDIT 6 JUN 2020: I just enabled Preining's repo and ran a full-upgrade.  It was a little scary, looking at the list of removals.  I saw plasma-desktop in the removals and of course that is needed.  First, on a system I can afford to trash, I went ahead with the full-upgrade.  When it was finished, I reinstalled plasma-desktop and of course it came in from the Preining repo, with most of the supporting packages needed for a KDE/Plasma desktop. Then I tried full-upgrade again, and this time the list of removals was very short.  I tested my 2 critical productivity packages, quemu/kvm and zulucrypt, and they're in good shape, so I went ahead and did the same process on my productivity system, and all seems solid here. I appreciate the OP and the tip about his repos.  Thanks!

[Lanzi]

Thanks dibl for the information.I will wait until the summer ends (September, October) and then see, if we have plasma 5.19.

If not I will also switch. I will not wait for an upgrade another 2,5 years... So thanks for the information. It is really helpfull!

[paxmark2]

I can't speak about KDE, but several years ago Norbert was the one who took the ball and ran with it for the Sigil .epub editing program. Sigil was Python3 and QT5 and from a non-linux but open source developer.   Norberts binaries for Sigil were top notch.  And then Debian caught up and he moved onto other chores.   

edit    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=590180

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[devil]

He does the same with Calibre now and is always ahead of Debian.

[unklarer]

^If I want to test it,
- I download the last kde-iso of 04.05.2020
- after the installation I change the repos to Preining
- and make a dist-upgrade/full-upgrade

Are there any other suggestions, anything noteworthy ?   

[dibl]

@unklarer -- that should work.  The control to split the dolphin window has moved to the upper right. You might lose a KDE package or two in the process, but you can reinstall it after the full-upgrade.

[unklarer]

^^ @dibl, it didn't work   
It took me two tries.   

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$ inxi -Sxxx
System:    Host: plasma Kernel: 5.6.17-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.1.0
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.18.5 tk: Qt 5.12.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM
           Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - kde - (202005041058) base: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid

#1
as written, after installation, the repo's replaced.
Then update && dist-upgrade
437 packages to update; 20 to remove (including: kde-plasma-desktop; plasma-desktop; plasma-workspace)

New installation of plasma-desktop required
libappstreamqt2 and libqalculate21, which was either the wrong version or not available as a package at all.

The system played broken in the further course.   


#2
Reinstall and then update the system (771 to update; 21 new and 3 to remove).
libappstreamqt2 appeared in the correct version
libqalculate21 was only available in experimental

experimental-repo and the npreinig-repos activated.
See for yourself, plasma-desktop was no longer for disposition:

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root@plasma:~# apt update
OK:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
OK:2 http://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/siduction/extra unstable InRelease
OK:3 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease
Holen:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease [1.615 B]
Holen:5 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease [1.605 B]
Holen:6 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease [1.587 B]
Holen:7 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease [1.590 B]
Holen:8 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease [1.601 B]
Holen:9 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages [9.076 B]
Holen:10 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages [151 kB]
Holen:11 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages [91,7 kB]
Holen:12 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages [341 kB]
Holen:13 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages [9.106 B]
Es wurden 611 kB in 2 s geholt (337 kB/s).
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Aktualisierung für 155 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
root@plasma:~# apt dist-upgrade
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
  digikam-data digikam-private-libs libastro1 libgdcm3.0 libkdecorations2private6 liblensfun-data-v1 liblensfun1 libmarblewidget-qt5-28 libopencv-calib3d4.2 libopencv-core4.2 libopencv-features2d4.2
  libopencv-flann4.2 libopencv-highgui4.2 libopencv-imgcodecs4.2 libopencv-imgproc4.2 libopencv-ml4.2 libopencv-objdetect4.2 libopencv-videoio4.2 libqt5serialport5 libqtav1 libqtavwidgets1 libshp2
  libsocket++1 libtbb2 marble-plugins marble-qt-data opencv-data
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  digikam libqalculate20 libqalculate20-data
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  libkdecorations2private7 libkdsoap-bin libkdsoap1 libqalculate21 libqalculate21-data qml-module-org-kde-quickcharts
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  ark bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-gtk-theme digikam-data dolphin dolphin-plugins dragonplayer drkonqi ffmpegthumbs gwenview juk k3b k3b-data k3b-i18n kaccounts-providers kactivitymanagerd
  kamera kcalc kcolorchooser kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-gtk-style-preview kde-config-screenlocker kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze
  kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kde-zeroconf kdegraphics-mobipocket kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdenetwork-filesharing kdeplasma-addons-data kdialog keditbookmarks kfind kgamma5 kget khelpcenter khotkeys khotkeys-data
  kinfocenter kio-audiocd kio-extras kio-extras-data kmenuedit kompare konq-plugins konqueror konsole konsole-kpart kpart5-kompare krdc krfb kruler kscreen ksshaskpass ksysguard ksysguard-data ksysguardd
  ksystemlog kteatime kwalletmanager kwayland-integration kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 kwrited libastro1 libcolorcorrect5 libdolphinvcs5 libgrantlee-templates5
  libgrantlee-textdocument5 libk3b7 libk3b7-extracodecs libkaccounts1 libkdecorations2-5v5 libkf5baloowidgets-bin libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5cddb5 libkf5compactdisc5 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0
  libkf5kipi-data libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5konq6 libkf5sane-data libkf5sane5 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkomparediff2-5
  libkompareinterface5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd7 libksignalplotter7 libkwin4-effect-builtins1 libkwineffects12 libkwinglutils12 libkwinxrenderutils12 libkworkspace5-5 libmarblewidget-qt5-28
  libnotificationmanager1 libokular5core9 liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpam-kwallet-common libpam-kwallet5 libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5
  libprocesscore7 libprocessui7 libqca-qt5-2 libqca-qt5-2-plugins libqmobipocket2 libtaskmanager6abi1 libweather-ion7 marble-plugins marble-qt-data milou okular oxygen-sounds plasma-dataengines-addons
  plasma-desktop plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-integration plasma-nm plasma-pa plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons plasma-workspace
  plasma-workspace-data polkit-kde-agent-1 powerdevil powerdevil-data svgpart sweeper systemsettings user-manager yakuake
152 aktualisiert, 6 neu installiert, 3 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 264 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 44,8 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n]


Probably my way was a detour, because I could take the experimental-ISO.

The system behaves as usual.