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Offline harley-peter

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du wants to remove some packages
« on: 2020/07/28, 12:27:28 »
Since few days du wants to remove the following packages:
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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  gnustep-base-runtime libgnustep-base1.27 libobjc4 unar

Can I let them go?

Offline finotti

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #1 on: 2020/07/28, 15:43:05 »
I think it is a conflict between libgc1 and libgc1c2.  If you install libgc1, it will remove libgc1c2, but your other packages will likely be fine.  It's not clear to me which version should be kept, but ligbc1 is a newer version, so it seems that it would be the way to go.  (But I'm not the best person at all to give advice on that.)

Offline Xaver

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #2 on: 2020/08/02, 18:52:41 »
@ finotti


Thank you, your guess is right. I had the same problem. I have installed libgc1 now and the upgrade will not remove unar anymore.

Offline harley-peter

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #3 on: 2020/08/02, 23:42:07 »
Hhmm ....  I think it is not a good idea. If I try to install libgc1 the system wants to remove the following packages:
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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  gcc-10 gnustep-base-runtime guile-2.0-libs libgc1c2 libgnustep-base1.27 libobjc4 linux-headers-5.7.7-towo.1-siduction-amd64
  linux-headers-5.7.8-towo.1-siduction-amd64 linux-headers-siduction-amd64 unar
and the kernel 5.7.8 is the actual version on my laptop.

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #4 on: 2020/08/03, 10:39:36 »
@harley-peter,
betreffend deine Eingangsfrage, sehr einfach:
Falls Du irgendwas aus der (legacy)-macOS-Welt nutzen möchtest, behalte die Pakete.
Andernfalls "let them go".
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# apt show ...
hätte dir weitergeholfen.

Offline dpanter

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #5 on: 2020/08/03, 14:53:56 »

aptitude can be useful in these situations.
why/why-not: Explains the reason that a particular package should or cannot be installed on the system

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aptitude why-not libgc1c2
i   inkscape Depends   libgc1 (>= 1:7.2d)
i A libgc1   Conflicts libgc1c2
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Offline vilde

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #6 on: 2020/08/03, 16:46:10 »

aptitude can be useful in these situations.
why/why-not: Explains the reason that a particular package should or cannot be installed on the system

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aptitude why-not libgc1c2
i   inkscape Depends   libgc1 (>= 1:7.2d)
i A libgc1   Conflicts libgc1c2
Fantastic  :)

Offline harley-peter

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #7 on: 2020/08/03, 17:46:59 »
@samoht:
apt show habe ich schon benutzt, konnte aber mit den Angaben z. B. bei gnustep-base-runtime nicht wirklich viel anfangen

@dpanter:
thanks for the hint  :)

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #8 on: 2020/08/03, 18:56:31 »
@harley-peter: Something must be really different in your system compared to mine.  Installing libgc1 did not remove gcc-10, which probably is what is causing it to remove the kernel:

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$ inxi -v3
System:    Host: t440p Kernel: 5.7.10-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.1.0 Console: tty 17
           Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - kde - (202002031718) base: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20AWS2QV00 v: ThinkPad T440p serial: <superuser/root required>
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 20AWS2QV00 v: SDK0E50510 WIN serial: <superuser/root required> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO
           v: GLETA0WW (2.54 ) date: 08/27/2019
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 94.2 Wh condition: 94.6/99.5 Wh (95%) model: SANYO 45N1779 status: Unknown
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7-4600M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell rev: 3 L2 cache: 4096 KiB
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 23146
           Speed: 3463 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3463 2: 3445 3: 3458 4: 3477
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
           Device-2: NVIDIA GK208M [GeForce GT 730M] vendor: Lenovo driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0
           Device-3: Acer Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 3-12:6
           Display: server: X.org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa tty: 133x62
           Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console. Try -G --display
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 4080 bus ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: 50:7b:9d:54:62:c8
           Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 04:00.0
           IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: 4c:eb:42:ab:b2:1a
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 59.61 GiB (12.8%)
Info:      Processes: 290 Uptime: 4h 52m Memory: 15.40 GiB used: 3.69 GiB (24.0%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers:
           gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: 3105 Shell: Bash v: 5.0.16 inxi: 3.1.04
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$ apt policy libgc1
libgc1:
  Installed: 1:8.0.4-1
  Candidate: 1:8.0.4-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:8.0.4-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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$ apt policy gcc-10
gcc-10:
  Installed: 10.2.0-3
  Candidate: 10.2.0-3
  Version table:
 *** 10.2.0-3 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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$ apt policy unarunar:
  Installed: 1.10.1-2+b6
  Candidate: 1.10.1-2+b6
  Version table:
 *** 1.10.1-2+b6 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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$ apt policy libobjc4
libobjc4:
  Installed: 10.2.0-3
  Candidate: 10.2.0-3
  Version table:
 *** 10.2.0-3 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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$ apt policy guile-2.2-libs
guile-2.2-libs:
  Installed: 2.2.7+1-5.1
  Candidate: 2.2.7+1-5.1
  Version table:
 *** 2.2.7+1-5.1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Offline harley-peter

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #9 on: 2020/08/04, 09:31:14 »
Actual the system wants to remove some more packages. It seems that something with python is changing.

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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  cfv gnustep-base-runtime libgnustep-base1.27 libobjc4 libpython-stdlib ntfs-config python python-debianbts python-defusedxml
  python-glade2 python-gtk2 python-imaging python-minimal python-notify python-pexpect python-ptyprocess python-pysimplesoap python-soappy
  python-support python-talloc python-wstools pyygle sidu-base sidu-disk-center unar

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #10 on: 2020/08/04, 09:37:25 »
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sidu-disk-center

Really? That's ancient and dead since ages.
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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #11 on: 2020/08/04, 10:01:39 »
Quote from: harley-peter
It seems that something with python is changing.

Transition to python2.
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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #12 on: 2020/08/04, 19:25:24 »
Quote from: harley-peter
It seems that something with python is changing.

Transition to python2.


python2-rm!

https://release.debian.org/transitions/
https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/python2-rm.html

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #13 on: 2020/08/05, 02:17:28 »
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It seems that something with python is changing.

Transition to python2.

Don't you mean python3?
I'm getting similar removals today. Are all these related to python 2 removal and can be let go?

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cfv libpython-dev libpython-stdlib ntfs-config python python-dev python-glade2 python-gtk2
  python-minimal python-notify python-talloc

Edit:- to answer my own question, I checked with apt show and they all appear to be python2 related so I ran d-u. A bunch of python 3.8 packages were installed and system rebooted fine. Don't have time to check further.
« Last Edit: 2020/08/05, 02:26:21 by sunrat »

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Re: du wants to remove some packages
« Reply #14 on: 2020/08/05, 20:44:21 »
Since I posted yesterday, I have upgraded 3 KDE/Plasma systems and one LXQt, and I find no issues with them after those python packages were removed.  My important productivity packages are Qemu/KVM, zulucrypt, LibreOffice, and two browsers, and there's no problem with any of them.
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