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Offline vayu

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kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« on: 2020/10/26, 20:11:05 »
5.8.16-towo.1 still boots fine.
Also KDE is not upgradeable for me (lot's of packages to remove) and has been for a while.

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #1 on: 2020/10/26, 20:17:59 »
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kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
And you think, that helps in any direction?
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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #2 on: 2020/10/26, 20:32:07 »
I guess since it works fine with the last one and I haven't troubleshooted why, I guess it doesn't help.  I get stuck on simple things sometimes.  I just thought someone would appreciate a warning.

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #3 on: 2020/10/26, 20:35:03 »
I've been running your kernels for years now and have been infinitely appreciative of them.

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #4 on: 2020/10/26, 20:53:18 »
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towo:Defiant> inxi -SGMI
System:    Host: Defiant Kernel: 5.9.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.19.5
           Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - kde - (202010061355)
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: CSL- & KG product: A0000001 v: N/A serial: <superuser/root required>
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING v: Rev 1.xx serial: <superuser/root required>
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3103 date: 06/17/2020
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] driver: amdgpu
           v: kernel
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: amdgpu FAILED: ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Radeon RX 580 Series (POLARIS10 DRM 3.39.0 5.9.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 LLVM 11.0.0)
           v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.0-devel
Info:      Processes: 421 Uptime: 11h 05m Memory: 31.36 GiB used: 1.82 GiB (5.8%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.1.07
So you see, that kernel is working in general.
Let me oracle, you have a nvidia acard and you are using the blob, then have fun, a new driver, which supports kernel 5.9 or higher wil not be avaialable in the near future.
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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #5 on: 2020/10/26, 21:44:40 »
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you have a nvidia acard and you are using the blob, then have fun, a new driver, which supports kernel 5.9 or higher wil not be avaialable in the near future.
Thank you, that must be my problem. 

dkms status shows the 5.9 kernel not having an nvidia module
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dkms install nvidia-current/450.66 -k 5.9.0-1-amd64ends with an error:
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Building module: cleaning build area... unset ARCH; env NV_VERBOSE=1 make -j16 modules KERNEL_UNAME=5.9.0-1-amd64....(bad exit status: 2) Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.9.0-1-amd64 (x86_64) Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/450.66/build/make.log for more information.

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #6 on: 2020/10/26, 22:04:03 »
OT: I have a new siduction install (siduction 18.3.0 Patience - kde - (202008212153)
) with a ASUSTeK TUF GAMING B550-PLUS with AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G with Radeon Graphics.
Is kernel 5.9.1 already in the repos? I cannot install it.



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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #7 on: 2020/10/26, 22:15:19 »
As allways, new kernels are in our experimental repo.

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towo:Defiant> apt policy linux-image-siduction-amd64
linux-image-siduction-amd64:
  Installiert:           5.9-1~exp1
  Installationskandidat: 5.9-1~exp1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 5.9-1~exp1 500
        500 https://packages.siduction.org/extra experimental/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     5.8-16 500
        500 https://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable/main amd64 Packages
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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #8 on: 2020/10/27, 10:59:08 »
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Let me oracle, you have a nvidia acard and you are using the blob, then have fun, a new driver, which supports kernel 5.9 or higher wil not be avaialable in the near future.
Thanks for your information, I will hold the kernel before I install the 5.9.

NVIDIA Doesn't Expect To Have Linux 5.9 Driver Support For Another Month

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #9 on: 2020/10/27, 11:11:48 »
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hold the kernel

...or towo patches his kernel.

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #10 on: 2020/10/27, 11:32:22 »
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...or towo patches his kernel.
This will never happen, since such kernel won't be distributable, that patch violates the licence.
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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #11 on: 2020/10/27, 12:21:11 »
Those of Nvidia or the GPL of the Linux kernel?

Well, to want to use a distribution with always up-to-date kernel with a GPU that requires the proprietary driver nvidia is rather unfortunate.

Unlike you, I don't recommend buying a Radeon (everyone has to decide that for himself). If nouveau is enough (here intentionally a GF710, no problems with it), you can use it.

Btw., the thread starter could have called also times its concrete Nvidia GPU.

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #12 on: 2020/10/27, 13:03:42 »
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Those of Nvidia or the GPL of the Linux kernel

The kernel one.
This patch only removes the change, that non-gpl modules can use gpl'ed parts of the linux kernel.
Reverting that change clearly violates the kernel licence.
What people do on their own, is their part, but i can't do such thing in a distributed kernel.
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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #13 on: 2020/10/27, 13:33:43 »
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This patch only removes the change, that non-gpl modules can use gpl'ed parts of the linux kernel.

Thnx for the explanation!

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Re: kernel 5.9 won't boot on my system
« Reply #14 on: 2020/10/27, 22:13:36 »
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Thnx for the explanation!

+1

Speaking only for myself, with 2 Nvidia GPUs in the house, it would be good if release of the 5.9er could wait until the updated driver is available. Otherwise, it will be necessary to pin the 5.8x kernel before the du that installs 5.9.
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