Upgrade Warning -- kernel 5.13.3-1 may break networking

[unklarer]

^^@dibl,

i can confirm that!
Exactly that I had yesterday also on the screen.   

[Carnophage]

Well, there might be something with the very old installation (or it's something HW config related) as I just rebooted my other laptop and 5.13 works fine so far, lsmod shows iwlmvm, vfat or nft_ modules loaded, which does not happen on the older installation

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System:    Host: tomato Kernel: 5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0
           tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
           Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - nox - (202002161822) base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)


some old udev rules leftovers, suddenly tiggered by some micro change in how kernel reports something?

[jure]

while on my system, which is an uptodate old installation (riders on the storm), the nfs modules are not loaded on booting, I made an entry in /etc/modules (with nfs and nfsv4) and set a link to /etc/modules-loaded.d/nfs.conf
Now nfs modules are loaded while booting and the nfs shares are mounted like before with the 5.12er kernel on the same system.

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cat modules
# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
#
# This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
# at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.
nfs
nfsv4

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ls -l modules-load.d/
insgesamt 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119 24. Feb 2014  cups-filters.conf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 13. Jul 19:29 modules.conf -> ../modules
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 21. Jul 13:38 nfs.conf -> /etc/modules
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  39 27. Mai 15:53 nvidia.conf -> /etc/alternatives/glx--nvidia-load.conf

[towo]

while on my system, which is an uptodate old installation (riders on the storm),

Ähm, that can't be!

inxi -S -xxx
System:    Host: siductionbox Kernel: 5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 tk: Qt 5.15.2 wm: kwin_x11 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

That's what you have postet before. Your system is a bullseye install, not a siduction base.

[towo]

@all

please show your

/etc/initramfs-tools/modules
/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf

also an

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ls -ld /boot/initrd.img*


[dibl]

... I made an entry in /etc/modules

I made an entry for vfat, and confirmed that is is also in /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf, and rebooted.  Now the fat and vfat modules are loaded, but the USB thumb drive still won't mount. In dmesg appears the same error "codepage cp437 not found".
Google led me to this. 

[Carnophage]

@all

please show your

/etc/initramfs-tools/modules
/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf

also an

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ls -ld /boot/initrd.img*


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# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs(8) to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod


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#
# initramfs.conf
# Configuration file for mkinitramfs(8). See initramfs.conf(5).
#
# Note that configuration options from this file can be overridden
# by config files in the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d directory.

#
# MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ]
#
# most - Add most filesystem and all harddrive drivers.
#
# dep - Try and guess which modules to load.
#
# netboot - Add the base modules, network modules, but skip block devices.
#
# list - Only include modules from the 'additional modules' list
#

MODULES=most

#
# BUSYBOX: [ y | n | auto ]
#
# Use busybox shell and utilities.  If set to n, klibc utilities will be used.
# If set to auto (or unset), busybox will be used if installed and klibc will
# be used otherwise.
#

BUSYBOX=auto

#
# KEYMAP: [ y | n ]
#
# Load a keymap during the initramfs stage.
#

KEYMAP=n

#
# COMPRESS: [ gzip | bzip2 | lz4 | lzma | lzop | xz | zstd ]
#

COMPRESS=gzip

#
# DEVICE: ...
#
# Specify a specific network interface, like eth0
# Overridden by optional ip= or BOOTIF= bootarg
#

DEVICE=

#
# NFSROOT: [ auto | HOST:MOUNT ]
#

NFSROOT=auto

#
# RUNSIZE: ...
#
# The size of the /run tmpfs mount point, like 256M or 10%
# Overridden by optional initramfs.runsize= bootarg
#

RUNSIZE=10%

#
# FSTYPE: ...
#
# The filesystem type(s) to support, or "auto" to use the current root
# filesystem type
#

FSTYPE=auto


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-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28567250 Jul 21 14:42 /boot/initrd.img-5.12.17-1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28916752 Jul 21 14:42 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.3-3-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28921960 Jul 21 14:41 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64


[towo]

Hm, not the case of the problem, sadly.

[towo]

I made an entry for vfat, and confirmed that is is also in /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf, and rebooted.  Now the fat and vfat modules are loaded, but the USB thumb drive still won't mount. In dmesg appears the same error "codepage cp437 not found".
Google led me to this.

nls_cp437 is also a kernel module.

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towo:Defiant> sudo modinfo nls_cp437
filename:       /lib/modules/5.14.0-rc2-siduction-amd64/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp437.ko
license:        Dual BSD/GPL
depends:
retpoline:      Y
intree:         Y
name:           nls_cp437
vermagic:       5.14.0-rc2-siduction-amd64 SMP preempt mod_unload modversions

[dibl]

Same here:

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don@Hibiscus:~$ cat /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs(8) to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod
don@Hibiscus:~$ cat /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
#
# initramfs.conf
# Configuration file for mkinitramfs(8). See initramfs.conf(5).
#
# Note that configuration options from this file can be overridden
# by config files in the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d directory.

#
# MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ]
#
# most - Add most filesystem and all harddrive drivers.
#
# dep - Try and guess which modules to load.
#
# netboot - Add the base modules, network modules, but skip block devices.
#
# list - Only include modules from the 'additional modules' list
#

MODULES=most

#
# BUSYBOX: [ y | n | auto ]
#
# Use busybox shell and utilities.  If set to n, klibc utilities will be used.
# If set to auto (or unset), busybox will be used if installed and klibc will
# be used otherwise.
#

BUSYBOX=auto

#
# KEYMAP: [ y | n ]
#
# Load a keymap during the initramfs stage.
#

KEYMAP=n

#
# COMPRESS: [ gzip | bzip2 | lz4 | lzma | lzop | xz | zstd ]
#

COMPRESS=gzip

#
# DEVICE: ...
#
# Specify a specific network interface, like eth0
# Overridden by optional ip= or BOOTIF= bootarg
#

DEVICE=

#
# NFSROOT: [ auto | HOST:MOUNT ]
#

NFSROOT=auto

#
# RUNSIZE: ...
#
# The size of the /run tmpfs mount point, like 256M or 10%
# Overridden by optional initramfs.runsize= bootarg
#

RUNSIZE=10%

#
# FSTYPE: ...
#
# The filesystem type(s) to support, or "auto" to use the current root
# filesystem type
#

FSTYPE=auto

don@Hibiscus:~$ ls -ld /boot/initrd.img*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30676978 Jul 13 04:47 /boot/initrd.img-5.12.16-1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30678716 Jul 15 05:28 /boot/initrd.img-5.12.17-1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31018372 Jul 21 07:00 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64

[dibl]

Same as vfat:

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don@Hibiscus:~$ sudo modinfo nls_cp437
[sudo] password for don:
filename:       /lib/modules/5.12.17-1-siduction-amd64/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp437.ko
license:        Dual BSD/GPL
depends:       
retpoline:      Y
intree:         Y
name:           nls_cp437
vermagic:       5.12.17-1-siduction-amd64 SMP preempt mod_unload modversions
don@Hibiscus:~$ lsmod | grep nls_cp437
don@Hibiscus:~$


(I'm booted in a kernel that has networking ...)

[michaa7]

$ more /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs( to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod

$ more /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
#
# initramfs.conf
# Configuration file for mkinitramfs(. See initramfs.conf(5).
#
# Note that configuration options from this file can be overridden
# by config files in the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d directory.

#
# MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ]
#
# most - Add most filesystem and all harddrive drivers.
#
# dep - Try and guess which modules to load.
#
# netboot - Add the base modules, network modules, but skip block devices.
#
# list - Only include modules from the 'additional modules' list
#

MODULES=most

#
# BUSYBOX: [ y | n | auto ]
#
# Use busybox shell and utilities.  If set to n, klibc utilities will be used.
# If set to auto (or unset), busybox will be used if installed and klibc will
# be used otherwise.
#

...skipping 1 line
BUSYBOX=auto

#
# KEYMAP: [ y | n ]
#
# Load a keymap during the initramfs stage.
#

KEYMAP=n

#
# COMPRESS: [ gzip | bzip2 | lz4 | lzma | lzop | xz | zstd ]
#

COMPRESS=gzip

#
# DEVICE: ...
#
# Specify a specific network interface, like eth0
# Overridden by optional ip= or BOOTIF= bootarg
#

DEVICE=

#
# NFSROOT: [ auto | HOST:MOUNT ]
#

...skipping 1 line
NFSROOT=auto

#
# RUNSIZE: ...
#
# The size of the /run tmpfs mount point, like 256M or 10%
# Overridden by optional initramfs.runsize= bootarg
#

RUNSIZE=10%

#
# FSTYPE: ...
#
# The filesystem type(s) to support, or "auto" to use the current root
# filesystem type
#

FSTYPE=auto

$ ls -ld /boot/initrd.img*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77124201 21. Jul 12:02 /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-8-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68578383 20. Jul 14:06 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.3-3-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68580019 21. Jul 00:57 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63600472 13. Feb 16:18 /boot/initrd.img-5.7.8-towo.1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 64538128 23. Dez 2020  /boot/initrd.img-5.9.15-towo.1-siduction-amd64

[jure]

@towo

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cat siduction-version
siduction 12.2.0 Riders on the Storm - kde - (201212092131) upgrade to plasma 5 kde-full

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cat debian_version
11.0

may be the version 11 (bullseye) comes from my system cleanup in march 2021, but this is an old installation ... I would remember if had made a new installation ;-)

edit2
changelog

base-files (11.1) unstable; urgency=medium
...
  - Use 11.0 as version in /etc/debian_version.
    (expected to change at every point release)
...

edit:

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ls -ld /boot/initrd.img*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 61124578 16. Jul 18:51 /boot/initrd.img-5.12.17-1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 61663455 21. Jul 10:59 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64

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cat  /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs(8) to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod

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/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
#
# initramfs.conf
# Configuration file for mkinitramfs(8). See initramfs.conf(5).
#
# Note that configuration options from this file can be overridden
# by config files in the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d directory.

#
# MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ]
#
# most - Add most filesystem and all harddrive drivers.
#
# dep - Try and guess which modules to load.
#
# netboot - Add the base modules, network modules, but skip block devices.
#
# list - Only include modules from the 'additional modules' list
#

MODULES=most

#
# BUSYBOX: [ y | n | auto ]
#
# Use busybox shell and utilities.  If set to n, klibc utilities will be used.
# If set to auto (or unset), busybox will be used if installed and klibc will
# be used otherwise.
#

BUSYBOX=auto

#
# KEYMAP: [ y | n ]
#
# Load a keymap during the initramfs stage.
#

KEYMAP=n

#
# COMPRESS: [ gzip | bzip2 | lz4 | lzma | lzop | xz | zstd ]
#

COMPRESS=gzip

#
# DEVICE: ...
#
# Specify a specific network interface, like eth0
# Overridden by optional ip= or BOOTIF= bootarg
#

DEVICE=

#
# NFSROOT: [ auto | HOST:MOUNT ]
#

NFSROOT=auto

#
# RUNSIZE: ...
#
# The size of the /run tmpfs mount point, like 256M or 10%
# Overridden by optional initramfs.runsize= bootarg
#

RUNSIZE=10%

#
# FSTYPE: ...
#
# The filesystem type(s) to support, or "auto" to use the current root
# filesystem type
#

FSTYPE=auto

[cs]

@towo

Here we go again:

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ls -ld /boot/initrd.img*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68749648 17. Jul 19:22 /boot/initrd.img-5.12.17-1-siduction-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 69364492 21. Jul 08:47 /boot/initrd.img-5.13.4-1-siduction-amd64

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cat /etc/initramfs-tools/modules

# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs(8) to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod


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cat /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
#
# initramfs.conf
# Configuration file for mkinitramfs(8). See initramfs.conf(5).
#
# Note that configuration options from this file can be overridden
# by config files in the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d directory.

#
# MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ]
#
# most - Add most filesystem and all harddrive drivers.
#
# dep - Try and guess which modules to load.
#
# netboot - Add the base modules, network modules, but skip block devices.
#
# list - Only include modules from the 'additional modules' list
#

MODULES=most

#
# BUSYBOX: [ y | n | auto ]
#
# Use busybox shell and utilities.  If set to n, klibc utilities will be used.
# If set to auto (or unset), busybox will be used if installed and klibc will
# be used otherwise.
#

BUSYBOX=auto

#
# KEYMAP: [ y | n ]
#
# Load a keymap during the initramfs stage.
#

KEYMAP=n

#
# COMPRESS: [ gzip | bzip2 | lz4 | lzma | lzop | xz | zstd ]
#

COMPRESS=gzip

#
# DEVICE: ...
#
# Specify a specific network interface, like eth0
# Overridden by optional ip= or BOOTIF= bootarg
#

DEVICE=

#
# NFSROOT: [ auto | HOST:MOUNT ]
#

NFSROOT=auto

#
# RUNSIZE: ...
#
# The size of the /run tmpfs mount point, like 256M or 10%
# Overridden by optional initramfs.runsize= bootarg
#

RUNSIZE=10%

#
# FSTYPE: ...
#
# The filesystem type(s) to support, or "auto" to use the current root
# filesystem type
#

FSTYPE=auto

Thanks for your efforts!

[dibl]

For an experiment, while booted in 5.13.4-1, I added nls_cp437 to /etc/modules, then ran

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update-initramfs -u

and rebooted. Still no networking, and the USB thumb drive mounting fails silently.