Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login

Started by bearsfan, 2025/03/17, 20:52:04

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bearsfan

I have installed the latest version on 2 different machines and logging in gets no response.  The live versions work on both machines before installing.  Is there a password length or character requirement?

scholle1

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Welcome to siduction.

Did you set a user and root password during installation?
QuoteIs there a password length or character requirement?
No, but  but strongly recommended to set both.
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bearsfan

Yes, I set a username and password on both machines during the installation, I was wondering if there is a password length requirement maybe?  My keyboard is the english default, the install goes on no problem, boots to the sign in screen but then no response from the keyboard. I tried logging in as Root also but same response.

bearsfan

when I say no response from the keyboard, I mean, I can type the letters but pressing enter or clicking on login has no response.

bearsfan

Also, I am installing the KDE Plasma version.

scholle1

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bearsfan

siduction-2024.1.0-Shine_on-kde-amd64-202412261719.iso

bearsfan

I just downloaded the LXQT ISO, I'm going to try that to see if I get the same result.

bearsfan

Just installed the LXQT on Vbox and it logged in fine, I'm currently installing on the other machine.

scholle1

First try to reset the password (two variants):

  • On boot, press the "e" key when grub display the menu.
    Then go to the kernel line. Add at the end " 3", then press "F10" to boot.
    This bring you into the terminal.
    Set the user password again. and type "init 5 && exit" to start the graphical target.
  • Use the chroothelper in the live system. Klick on the icon and choose your installation partition.
    Inside chroot set the user password again.
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bearsfan

Just an FYI, the LXQT installed and logged in no problem.  Maybe something with the KDE ISO?

scholle1

Not really. Try it again on one of your machines.
Many new packages have arrived since December 2024, especially Plasma 6.

Please read the manual. Then perform a full upgrade.
Go to the multi-user target with <Strg> + <Alt> + <F3>, login as root and
init 3
apt update && apt full-upgrade

More than 1000 packages will probably be updated.
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bearsfan

Neither one of those options did anything.  Pressing enter or clicking on the login button gets no response, almost like they aren't active.

scholle1

If you can log into a terminal with one of the two variants, then try a "apt full-upgrade" as described above.
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ro_sid

This is a periodically (re-)appearing effect, that to my knowledge is unique to the combination of the "sddm" display manager and KDE/plasma. The effect is, that the enter/return key does not do anything. I, myself, experienced it regularly when upgrading a live (Siduction) KDE-iso image. Sometimes even the window-decorations get lost.

Why am I telling this: Apart from @scholle1's valuable tip to boot into a terminal screen instead of the graphical greeting screen, you can also always do it, even once you are "on sddm". The "ctrl-alt-F?"-mechanism still works, even then!
So press (e.g. ctrl-alt-F3) and you are on a terminal window ("F1" contains the startup messages, "F2" is the sddm-screen"). After logging in from there, you can do anything that does not require "graphics", especially you can update/upgrade.
Usually after some time, when sddm/kde/plasma/qt got their act together, everything works "normal" again!
Such things only happen with rolling releases or sid/unstable (or experimental) versions, not the stable ones and rarely in testing(/trixie). It is the price we have to pay for it, especially during transitions.