Upgrade from Debian stable or use only Siduction's kernel

Started by lanig, 2025/09/19, 11:16:09

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lanig

Hi,
I was an happy Siduction users for years and enjoyed the fact that it could hibernate my box though Debian stable couldn't.
I had to install Debian stable because of this problem: https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9608.msg76436#msg76436

Debian still can hibernate properly  my computer because of amd gpu errors at waking time. Is it possible to upgrade to Siduction directly from  Stable or at least use Siduction's kernels ?
TIA

dibl

Quote from: lanig on 2025/09/19, 11:16:09
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Is it possible to upgrade to Siduction directly from  Stable or at least use Siduction's kernels ?
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Pure Debian system has one repository enabled:

- Debian stable

Today,, pure siduction system has three repositories enabled:

- Debian unstable
- Siduction extras
- Siduction fixes

So you can see what is the difference, and what needs to be changed to go from Debian stable system to siduction system.
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lanig

Thanks.
So there is no simple way to install only Siduction's kernel ? What I can't understand is how it is possible that Siduction could properly hibernate my computer when stable was at 11 and that stable 13 still can't!
i can move to Unstable.
What should I do with the Siduction extras ?
Install everything ?

dibl

siduction linux-image and linux-headers files are in the extra repo. You would need to enable only that repo to install those packages, and you would not install any other packages.
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sedonix

OP, you can essentially add anything you want from anywhere.That is if you use synaptic
and have a modicum of common sense. I drive them nuts over at the Debian forum because the 'old timers' and mods cannot/will not update their 'our way or the highway' attitude.
I have at the moment debian stable, testing and unstable on this computer. They all have
siductions experimental kernels and all is good on all installations.
:~$ inxi
CPU: quad core Intel Core i5-6400 (-MCP-) speed/min/max: 800/800/3300 MHz
Kernel: 6.17-rc6-siduction-amd64 x86_64 Up: 8h 31m Mem: 1.15/7.68 GiB (15.0%)
Storage: 931.51 GiB (3.1% used) Procs: 181 Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.39


First you will have to learn how to add repositories. Doing all updates/install/uninstall
from synaptic makes everything so much easier and almost foolproof. Try it, you'll like it!

sunrat

Quote from: sedonix on 2025/09/21, 23:39:24I drive them nuts over at the Debian forum because the 'old timers' and mods cannot/will not update their 'our way or the highway' attitude.
I'm an admin there, can't recall you driving me nuts. Maybe you have a different username there.

QuoteFirst you will have to learn how to add repositories. Doing all updates/install/uninstall
from synaptic makes everything so much easier and almost foolproof. Try it, you'll like it!
This is true. I always use Liquorix kernel in Debian. My way!  ;) It's good for audio production. siduction kernel is good too but I haven't used it outside siduction.

sedonix

QuoteI'm an admin there, can't recall you driving me nuts. Maybe you have a different username there.

'arid' will have to try harder :)

sunrat

Quote from: sedonix on 2025/09/22, 02:49:03
QuoteI'm an admin there, can't recall you driving me nuts. Maybe you have a different username there.

'arid' will have to try harder :)
Ah, yes, you have opinions. We don't judge by opinions or let them bother us much. You know what they say about opinions, everyone has one.  ::)
The number of users who annoy the mod team is very small and we try not to over-moderate, but occasionally  ::) ...

lanig

Thanks for the tips.
I installed the latest Siduction image but hibernation result was the same. Either, somewhere else Siduction does something different than Debian or this is a kernel regression.

dibl

I assume you have already given this a thorough review and tried the uswsusp and s2disk methods:

https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation

Did your understanding that the siduction kernel provided hibernation come from a siduction Live ISO?  If so, it may be that @towo can point you to that particular older kernel version in the archives.
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lanig

QuoteDid your understanding that the siduction kernel provided hibernation come from a siduction Live ISO? 
No, Siduction was installed on my computers for years, until my SDD failed and that I was not able to reinstalled it with LUKS.