No audio devices detected ~(udev/modporbe failure)

[michaa7]

No sound. It seems your salvation is my misfunction :-( .

The error message during boot says:
udev [473] /sbin/modprobe -b pci.000<very>

And no soundcard detected (my nifty mixer application didn't start).

[towo]

is oss-compat still installed?

[michaa7]

Yes, oss-compat is installed. It was updatet to version 3, but downgrading it to version 2 (testing) does not solve the problem. Uninstalling it isn't a real option as my mixer application (wmmixer) and some other applications like notedit depend on it.

Any other option?

BTW: I now discoverd an other error message during boot stating something like 'alsa restore' failed and alsa coudn't find a soundcard :-(

[Lanzi]

A simple dist-upgrade changes nothing here...
No sound and lots of "Audio hardware removeed - Audio Geräte wurden entfernt"

Should I try this (from gilpier)?

I restore everything inside /etc/modprobe.d and remove only alsa-base.conf.
Now it is working well. It seems that the problem is in module alsa-base.conf.

[michaa7]

Saving away oss-compat.conf

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# mv /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf.saveis a workaround. In essence it's the same as uninstalling oss-compat, exept you do not loose some applications, but they won't work now.

So not a real solution but a temporary workaround as now the soundcard is found and works (unfortunatly here without my preferred mixer).


EDIT://
Here the solution is as follows:
- remove/save away /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf
- then install oss-compat 2
(apt-get install oss-compat/testing)

This will create a working oss-compat.conf which is different from the one created by version 3. Reinstalling the testing version without beforehand manually removing the oss-compat.conf created by version 3 didn't work here (see above)!

Now my oss-compat depending mixer is working again.

[Lanzi]

seems to work, even without mixer...
Thanks so far!

[DeepDayze]

Saving away oss-compat.conf

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# mv /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf.saveis a workaround. In essence it's the same as uninstalling oss-compat, exept you do not loose some applications, but they won't work now.

So not a real solution but a temporary workaround as now the soundcard is found and works (unfortunatly here without my preferred mixer).


EDIT://
Here the solution is as follows:
- remove/save away /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf
- then install oss-compat 2
(apt-get install oss-compat/testing)

This will create a working oss-compat.conf which is different from the one created by version 3. Reinstalling the testing version without beforehand manually removing the oss-compat.conf created by version 3 didn't work here (see above)!

Now my oss-compat depending mixer is working again.

Ok then once we do that should we put oss-compat on hold to prevent oss-compat 3 from installing (at least till the issues with it are fixed)

[ralul]

My aptitude output shows me nothing worth to install oss-compat:
some old child games, some french text-to-speech etc

[DeepDayze]

My aptitude output shows me nothing worth to install oss-compat:
some old child games, some french text-to-speech etc

Yes,  but there are a few audio mixer apps that still depend on it. Hopefully some people could badger the apps' developers to change things so that oss-compat is just a recommends as its main use is to allow some old sound hardware and apps that are not alsa-aware to still work with latest alsa

[michaa7]

... Ok then once we do that should we put oss-compat on hold to prevent oss-compat 3 from installing (at least till the issues with it are fixed)

*I* do. But I'm not sure it's a solution for everyone (musca claimed oss-compat 3 to be the solution, which for me is the problem). But I am thinking about filing a bug report.

My aptitude output shows me nothing worth to install oss-compat:
some old child games, some french text-to-speech etc

What about wmmixer under fluxbox or notedit?

[musca]

hello michaa7,
oss is deprecated and as you now see it is badly maintained.

notedit after a long discussion was removed from debian more than two years ago.
see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560079
There are canorus and nted packaged in debian.

cheers!
musca

[michaa7]

hello michaa7,
oss is deprecated and as you now see it is badly maintained.

notedit after a long discussion was removed from debian more than two years ago.
see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560079
There are canorus and nted packaged in debian.

cheers!
musca

Neither nted nor canorus is a full replacement of notedit and my wmmixer simply is the best (=small and handy) mixer in Debian.
So I need oss-compat (but wasn't aware of until yesterday ).

How is oss-compat 3 a solution for you if you don't need it?

[musca]

I checked its changelog, and it closes bug #660803.
But indeed it is no solution, i admit.

musca

[DeepDayze]

Perhaps some one should open a new bug report referencing the old one and stating that the oss-compat 3 version still has issues that need further investigation

[dibl]

I thought of opening a new thread -- but this may be a related problem.  My main desktop system is now booting without the snd_hda_intel module loaded.  But I can modprobe it, then I have sound.  The only thing I can think of that might have caused this is, yesterday I upgraded the systemd packages, which were previously on hold.

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don@imerabox:~$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
don@imerabox:~$ lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
05:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
don@imerabox:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_usb_audio          98706  1
snd_usbmidi_lib        15422  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hwdep               5309  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_pcm_oss            30216  0
snd_mixer_oss          12246  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                61237  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio
snd_page_alloc          6170  1 snd_pcm
snd_seq_oss            34021  1
snd_seq_midi_event      4532  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_rawmidi            15610  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_seq                41713  2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq_device          4601  3 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss
snd_timer              15473  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd                    49520  13 snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore               4370  1 snd
usbcore               129729  9 uhci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,gspca_main,usbhid,gspca_zc3xx,xhci_hcd
don@imerabox:~$ su
Password:
root@imerabox:/home/don# modprobe snd_hda_intel
root@imerabox:/home/don# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxcb_connection_has_error() returned true
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
root@imerabox:/home/don#

dmesg does not show any detection of the audio chip during boot.

Are any of the other systemd systems having this issue?