[solved] I think I lost network-manager on last d-u

[vilde]

After d-u today there was no network and no network-manager running? I used ceni to connect but what happen to network-manager?

No packages where removed during d-u.

XFCE 64 bit.

[pjnsmb]

If your d-u updated modemmanager I think you will find this happened :



The following packages will be REMOVED:
  network-manager network-manager-gnome

[vilde]

If your d-u updated modemmanager I think you will find this happened :



The following packages will be REMOVED:
  network-manager network-manager-gnome

No, as I wrote nothing was removed as I could see.

Edit: maybe I'm wrong, looks like it's gone, I will check more.

Edit again:

Looks like after installing network-manager network-manager-gnome  it's there again, but apt removed modemmanager or something like that instead.

The weird is that I always check if something shall be removed and I am sure there was nothing to be removed when I did my d-u today, probably vilde is going crazy. On the other hand as Waylon sings, "I've always been crazy but it's kept me from going insane"

[GoinEasy9]

Or as Joe Walsh said, "They say I'm crazy, but I have a good time."

BTW - We're not going crazy, we're already there.  Or as it's been said here in forum, "Bat shit crazy".  Heh

BTW2 - I just saw devil's post in the German thread about modemmanager & NM.  He said, (Translated) "The removal of the NM packages are also related to the Gnome transition.". 
And, as far as I, a KDE user can see, it's still in progress.  Thought I'd mention it here.

[michaa7]

..."They say I'm crazy, but I have a good time."
...

That's a good one, I like it (didn't know Joe W., but now I've googled him)

[UP2L8]

@michaa7...you must be a young one.  I remember Joe Walsh and the song mentioned by GoinEasy9.

[vilde]

Today networkmanager was updated on d-u. In system tray networkmanager is gone but the network works.

[dsat]

Hi,

if you install plasma-nm, network will appear again in system-tray

regards dsat

[vilde]

Hi,

if you install plasma-nm, network will appear again in system-tray

regards dsat

That will install 73 new packages, kde? I don't even try that. Isn't plasma something for kde, I have xfce

I feel maybe I shall skip networkmanager and start using ceni? Problem about networkmanager seems like a gnome problem, I don't run gnome, I don,t run kde, I don't want to be hit with problems for those two.

[dsat]

Hi,

you are right, plasma is KDE, sorry, I did not recognize that you are running XFCE

regards dsat

[bluelupo]

Hi all,
as a workaround, I can recommend the following:
plasma-nm, network-manager and modemmanager put on HOLD until the error is fixed.

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# apt-mark hold network-manager plasma-nm modemmanager


I have this issue once "fixed" it is at the top of the list of posts, as this is a very important issue. A working network is essential.

[drb]

Is this just a gnome problem? My du -dV shows nothing to remove.

[vilde]

Is this just a gnome problem? My du -dV shows nothing to remove.

As I have xfce it doesn't only hit gnome.
For the moment I have no network-manager, it doesn't work to install it. I'm using ceni at least until this problem is gone

[ayla]

no, it.s not just a gnome problem.

KDE is hitten also. D-u does not show anything to remove because the cause are the  packages to be upgraded

Last good working combination for KDE is to find in testing:

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cal@neskaya:~cal: apt-cache policy network-manager
network-manager:
  Installiert:           0.9.8.0-5
  Installationskandidat: 0.9.8.8-4
  Versionstabelle:
     0.9.8.8-4 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
*** 0.9.8.0-5 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
cal@neskaya:~cal: apt-cache policy modemmanager
modemmanager:
  Installiert:           0.5.2.0-2.1
  Installationskandidat: 1.0.0-4
  Versionstabelle:
     1.0.0-4 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
*** 0.5.2.0-2.1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
cal@neskaya:~cal: apt-cache policy plasma-nm
plasma-nm:
  Installiert:           0.9.3.2-3
  Installationskandidat: 0.9.3.3-2
  Versionstabelle:
     0.9.3.3-2 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     0.9.3.3-1 0
          1 http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
*** 0.9.3.2-3 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Or, as vilde said, use ceni insteed for the moment if you are hitten and don't need modemmanager.

[drb]

Thanks!