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Offline CyrusQ

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autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« on: 2020/01/04, 10:55:59 »

apt-get -f install wants to autoremove these, but seems to be related to kde, gtk and python?


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apt-get -f install
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Abhängigkeiten werden korrigiert ... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
  coinor-libcbc3 coinor-libcgl1 coinor-libclp1 coinor-libcoinmp1v5 coinor-libcoinutils3v5 coinor-libosi1v5 g++-7 gconf-service gconf2-common iputils-arping  kde-baseapps-bin kio-sieve kppp kremotecontrol kscd libargon2-0 libarmadillo8 libart-2.0-2 libavdevice57 libavfilter6 libavformat57 libavresample3  libbind9-160 libboost-atomic1.67.0 libboost-chrono1.62.0 libboost-chrono1.67.0 libboost-date-time1.62.0 libboost-filesystem1.62.0 libboost-iostreams1.62.0  libboost-locale1.62.0 libboost-regex1.62.0 libboost-system1.62.0 libboost-thread1.62.0 libbrlapi0.6 libcdio17 libcfitsio5 libcharls1 libcln6  libcodec2-0.8.1 libcpupower1 libcwidget3v5 libdapserver7v5 libdiscid0 libdns-export1100 libdns1100 libdouble-conversion1 libfile-copy-recursive-perl  libflann1.9 libfreerdp-cache1.1 libfreerdp-client1.1 libfreerdp-codec1.1 libfreerdp-common1.1.0 libfreerdp-core1.1 libfreerdp-crypto1.1 libfreerdp-gdi1.1  libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-plugins-standard libfreerdp-primitives1.1 libfreerdp-rail1.1 libfreerdp-utils1.1 libfuse3-3 libgconf-2-4 libgconfmm-2.6-1v5  libgeoclue-2-0 libgeos-3.6.2 libgeos-3.7.2 libgeotiff2 libgfortran4 libgit2-26 libglademm-2.4-1v5 libgnustep-base1.25 libgps23 libgutenprint2 libhavege1  libhttp-parser2.8 libhunspell-1.6-0 libicu-le-hb0 libicu60 libigdgmm9 libip4tc0 libip6tc0 libirs160 libisc-export169 libisc169 libisccc160 libisccfg160  libisl19 libiso9660-10 libjemalloc1 libjpeg9 libjson-c3 libkdecorations2private5v5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi1 libkf5calendarcore5abi1 libkf5iconthemes-bin  libkf5khtml-bin libkf5mimetreeparser5 libkf5parts-plugins libkf5syndication5 libkmlconvenience1 libkmlregionator1 libkmlxsd1 liblinear3 liblivemedia62  libllvm6.0 libllvm8 liblouis14 liblouis17 liblouisutdml8 liblvm2app2.2 liblvm2cmd2.02 liblwres160 libmagickcore-6.q16-5 libmagickcore-6.q16-5-extra  libmagickwand-6.q16-5 libncurses5 libncursesw5 libnfs11 libntfs-3g88 liborcus-0.13-0 liborcus-0.14-0 libpango-perl libperl5.28 libplacebo4 libpoppler74  libpostproc54 libprocps6 libproj13 libprotobuf-lite10 libprotobuf10 libpython3.6 libpython3.6-minimal libpython3.6-stdlib libqpdf21 libqrencode3 librarian0  libraw16 libre2-4 libsnmp30 libstdc++-7-dev libtinfo5 libtss2-udev libwayland-egl1-mesa libwinpr-crt0.1 libwinpr-crypto0.1 libwinpr-dsparse0.1  libwinpr-environment0.1 libwinpr-file0.1 libwinpr-handle0.1 libwinpr-heap0.1 libwinpr-input0.1 libwinpr-interlocked0.1 libwinpr-library0.1 libwinpr-path0.1  libwinpr-pool0.1 libwinpr-registry0.1 libwinpr-rpc0.1 libwinpr-sspi0.1 libwinpr-synch0.1 libwinpr-sysinfo0.1 libwinpr-thread0.1 libwinpr-utils0.1  libwxgtk3.0-0v5 libx265-176 libxfreerdp-client1.1 linux-headers-4.16.8-towo.1-siduction-amd64 linux-headers-5.2.15-towo.1-siduction-amd64  linux-image-4.16.8-towo.1-siduction-amd64 linux-image-5.2.15-towo.1-siduction-amd64 marble-data myspell-de-de perl-modules-5.28 python-crypto  python-enchant python-gdbm python-gtkspellcheck python-pyqt5.qtwebkit python-talloc python-xdg python3-evdev python3.6 python3.6-minimal
  qml-module-org-kde-newstuff qpdf rarian-compat sni-qt
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  libjuh-java libjurt-java libridl-java libunoloader-java
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  libjuh-java libjurt-java libridl-java libunoloader-java
0 aktualisiert, 4 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 761 nicht aktualisiert.
305 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt.
Es müssen noch 0 B von 1.138 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 1.351 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n]


Isn't it a bit too much to remove?


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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #1 on: 2020/01/04, 18:10:29 »
3 questions:

1. When was this system last fully updated?

2. What desktop environment is it?

3. What problem caused you to issue
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apt -f install?
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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #2 on: 2020/01/04, 18:31:07 »
1. fully updated about 2 months ago


2. KDE


3. https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=7849.0 (darktable refused to start after d-u, window is closing immediately after start given the error in the other post when startet in terminal)

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #3 on: 2020/01/04, 20:40:02 »
First, two months is too long with no d-u, when debian bullseye is under heavy development.  Better d-u at least twice per month -- every week is better.

Next, I don't know/have the GTK problem, but I would work first to resolve that.  I googled
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Gtk:ERROR:../../../../gtk/gtkiconhelper.c:494:ensure_surface_for_gicon:
and there are some interesting posts, including one on arch, that might help.  Maybe uninstall gimp and darktable, then d-u, then reinstall if they are installable.

Worst case if nothing else works (... and I have done this, some years ago ...), let all the packages to be removed go, then d-u and get your basic system stable and with a clean set of remaining packages, i.e.:

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dpkg --configure -a
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apt update && apt full-upgrade
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apt clean
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apt autoremove
then reinstall your plasma-desktop and kde packages and anything else that you need. (This very thread can be your guide to replacing what was removed).  Be careful about forcing installations, when there are dependency problems -- maybe better to download the .deb from the stable repo, if you have to have a working package and the unstable version won't install.

I hope this helps.
« Last Edit: 2020/01/04, 20:48:19 by dibl »
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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #4 on: 2020/01/04, 21:42:26 »
The tip/solution with "apt install -f" was also given in this post: https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=7843.msg63833

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #5 on: 2020/01/04, 22:07:05 »
@CyrosQ First, the aoutoremove text is only a suggestion, apt-get -f install will not remove this packages. It will try to do what it says later

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Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  libjuh-java libjurt-java libridl-java libunoloader-java
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  libjuh-java libjurt-java libridl-java libunoloader-java
0 aktualisiert, 4 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 761 nicht aktualisiert.
305 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt.
Es müssen noch 0 B von 1.138 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 1.351 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
You problem is the probably exact same as I had yesterday and if apt-get -f install is not able to fix this you shall ask for help in irc, or here  it's not recommended to do what I did to fix it. And maybe you shouldn't do apt-get -f install at all as dibl wrote. On the other hand, I have never had problem with that command before.
 
« Last Edit: 2020/01/04, 22:10:52 by vilde »

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #6 on: 2020/01/04, 23:42:13 »
apt-get -f install is not able to fix that problem.


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dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Archivs /var/cache/apt/archives/libjuh-java_1%3a6.4.0~rc1-5_all.deb (--unpack):
 Versuch, »/usr/share/java/juh.jar« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket ure 6.4.0~rc1-5 ist


So it seems to be a problem with ure.


Any suggestions to get rid of the problem?


After years, I did a complete new installations about half a year ago and and I thought I could keep it running some years (ok, from now with more frequent d-us...)

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #7 on: 2020/01/04, 23:54:33 »

So it seems to be a problem with ure.

Any suggestions to get rid of the problem?


mdmarmer's solution worked for me:

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=7843.0
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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #8 on: 2020/01/04, 23:54:59 »
« Last Edit: 2020/01/04, 23:59:13 by samoht »

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #9 on: 2020/01/05, 11:27:52 »

@samoht: Hatte ich schon gesehen, aber ein Update von libreoffice war nicht möglich
@dibl: mdmarmers solution didn't work because of the apt-get -f install error.


This solved the problem (like samohts fix, but a few more libreoffice-packages were needed to be purged):
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apt purge libreoffice-nlpsolver libreoffice-wiki-publisher libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-script-provider-bsh libreoffice-script-provider-js libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb

Regarding the packages suggested for autoremove - will it be save to remove them or do you have any concerns?

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #10 on: 2020/01/05, 11:59:56 »
Regarding the packages suggested for autoremove - will it be save to remove them or do you have any concerns?
I'd be extremely careful with autoremove.  If there is anything that seems that you need or are uncertain, I would skip it.  (But I am not an expert...  I'd just rather waste some disk space...)

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #11 on: 2020/01/05, 13:07:40 »
Ich kann nicht sagen, dass mich apt jemals mit dem autoremove nach dem d_u enttäuscht hat.
Es hat immer zuverlässig funktioniert.

I can't say that apt has ever disappointed me with the autoremove after the d_u.
It has always worked reliably.   :)

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Re: autoremove - aufpassen, be carefull
« Reply #12 on: 2020/01/05, 15:35:13 »
Autoremove wollte seit November? bei mir xfce4-screenshooter, xfce4-verve-plugin und xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin entfernen (Teil der xfce4-goodies). Damit würde meine Desktopumgebung eingeschränkt werden. Gestern habe ich es erst mal entfernen lassen und danach wieder installiert.

Since November? autoremove wanted to remove xfce4-screenshooter, xfce4-verve-plugin and xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (part of the xfce4-goodies). This would limit my desktop environment. Yesterday I had it removed and then reinstalled it.

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Re: autoremove - kde, gtk, python?
« Reply #13 on: 2020/01/05, 15:46:43 »
HarzG - so was weist auf Paketierungsfehler hin und ist es wert, upstream gemeldet zu werden. Da fehlt in den jeweiligen Pakete ein
Break: foo
Replaces: foo

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