Eigentlich wollten wir, der Tradition folgend, zwischen den Jahren ein neues Release veröffentlichen. Sowohl fehlende Zeit durch Ereignisse im privaten Bereich als auch die Probleme mit xkb-data in den vergangenen Wochen führen dazu, dass wir uns entschlossen haben, das Release zu verschieben. Es kommt jetzt vermutlich im Januar 2026. Ich wünsche euch eine gute Zeit, genießt die Feiertage.
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Actually, following tradition, we wanted to release a new version between Christmas and New Year. However, due to a lack of time caused by personal circumstances and problems with xkb-data recently, we have decided to postpone the release. It will probably be released in January 2026. I wish you all a wonderful time, enjoy the holidays.
Thank you, and thanks to the siduction team for this excellent project. Happy holidays to all the development team and the users, and best wishes for a prosperous 2026!
Thank you all for the effort,we are all waitting for the new release!!!!
Fair enough and happy holidays, Devil!
Happy holidays everyone, and a big thank you to the development team for bringing us this wonderful distro.
Dann frag ich mal nach: Ich bin noch einigermaßen ,,neu" bei Siduction, gibt's einen Grund für die geringe Release-Frequenz?
Wer heute ,,Shine on" installiert, macht das mit einem Image von Ende März, was beim unvermeidlichen dist-upgrade mit > 2k Paketen zu Konflikten führt; ohne einige dpkg --configure -a und apt -f install krieg ich ein frisch installiertes Siduction derzeit gar nicht auf den Stand.
Vielleicht stelle ich mir das zu einfach vor, aber bei einem RR ist ein Release doch nur ein Schnappschuss, der nicht viel Arbeit machen sollte ...
--ks
Thank you!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Waiting eagerly for the new edition!
Quote from: kreuzschnabel on 2025/12/25, 10:14:41
Dann frag ich mal nach: Ich bin noch einigermaßen ,,neu" bei Siduction, gibt's einen Grund für die geringe Release-Frequenz?
Wer heute ,,Shine on" installiert, macht das mit einem Image von Ende März, was beim unvermeidlichen dist-upgrade mit > 2k Paketen zu Konflikten führt; ohne einige dpkg --configure -a und apt -f install krieg ich ein frisch installiertes Siduction derzeit gar nicht auf den Stand.
Vielleicht stelle ich mir das zu einfach vor, aber bei einem RR ist ein Release doch nur ein Schnappschuss, der nicht viel Arbeit machen sollte ...
--ks
Du hättest Oktober 2025 bekommen können und dir die Arbeit etwas erspart. :D
https://testbuilds.siduction.org/
Meine Empfehlung wäre jetzt, warte gleich bis Januar '26!
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You could have gotten October 2025 and saved yourself some work. :D
My recommendation now would be to wait until January 2026!
Quote from: kreuzschnabel on 2025/12/25, 10:14:41
Dann frag ich mal nach: Ich bin noch einigermaßen ,,neu" bei Siduction, gibt's einen Grund für die geringe Release-Frequenz?
Wer heute ,,Shine on" installiert, macht das mit einem Image von Ende März, was beim unvermeidlichen dist-upgrade mit > 2k Paketen zu Konflikten führt; ohne einige dpkg --configure -a und apt -f install krieg ich ein frisch installiertes Siduction derzeit gar nicht auf den Stand.
Vielleicht stelle ich mir das zu einfach vor, aber bei einem RR ist ein Release doch nur ein Schnappschuss, der nicht viel Arbeit machen sollte ...
--ks
Deepl-Übersetzung:
Ihr siduction-System ist Debian Linux (instabil) – Sie erhalten alle sechs Stunden eine neue Version.
Sie müssen nur dann eine Neuinstallation durchführen, wenn Sie mit einem neuen System beginnen.
Quote from: kreuzschnabel on 2025/12/25, 10:14:41
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Vielleicht stelle ich mir das zu einfach vor, aber bei einem RR ist ein Release doch nur ein Schnappschuss, der nicht viel Arbeit machen sollte ...
...
Nun, das siduction team hat eben auch ein bisschen Ehrgeiz. Für sie gehört neben Artwork auch zu einem neuen release z.B. erkannte Schwächen des Installers zu beheben, neue Techniken zu integrieren. Und offenbar ist nicht jeder (Schnapp-) Schuss ein Treffer.
Allerdings stimme ich dir in soweit zu dass es vielleicht hilfreich wäre wenn man irgendwie einen gesonderten Bereich einrichten würde in dem es Rückmeldungen zu testbuilds geben könnte um zu sehen, welche als zeitnahes Installationsmedium geeignet wären. Auch ich habe schon mehrfach Neuinstallationen auf Basis von älteren Siduction images hinter mich gebracht. Es ist machbar, aber ich stimme dir zu dass 2GB (was du vermutlich mit 2k meintest) d-u mit Stolpersteinen als Einstieg wirklich wenig einladend sind.
Quote from: michaa7 on 2025/12/26, 01:59:57
ich stimme dir zu dass 2GB (was du vermutlich mit 2k meintest)
Ich meinte ganz schlicht über 2000 Pakete. Es waren vor drei Tagen 2183 oder so Pakete, die zu aktualisieren waren, und das hat
apt nicht konfliktfrei hinbekommen, auch dann nicht, wenn ich erst ,,nur"
apt upgrade durchlaufen lasse, dann reboote und dann erst
apt full-upgrade (bei großen Upgrades ist das zweistufige Vorgehen oftmals systemschonender).
--ks
Wir sind nur ein kleines Team, unsere Jobs und unser Privatleben stehen natürlich an erster Stelle. Das erklärt die geringe Release-Frequenz. Bei einem Rolling Release entsteht das ISO aus einem Snapshot des Repositories. Soweit richtig. Aber das Repository muss auch in einem Zustand sein, der ein ISO erlaubt. Das war es in den vergangenen Wochen wegen des Pakets xkb-data nicht. Zudem tun wir einiges mehr, als nur ein ISO bauen und veröffentlichen. Ich hoffe, das erklärt die Verspätung.
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We are only a small team, and our jobs and private lives naturally come first. This explains the low release frequency. With a rolling release, the ISO is created from a snapshot of the repository. That's correct. But the repository must also be in a state that allows an ISO to be created. In recent weeks, this has not been the case due to the xkb-data package. In addition, we do a lot more than just build and publish an ISO. I hope this explains the delay.
Gibt es eine Chance, den Namen der neuen Veröffentlichung zu erfahren?
Is there any chance of revealing the name of the new release?
The release will be titled 'Big Crime' and is taken from Neil Young's so named song.
tnx. for the info @devil
Even though 'Big Change' is also a song by Neil, we will use 'Big Crime'. Sorry for the confusion.
I will be a proud downloader of Big Crime! (The iso, of course, not that awful song I might be prosecuted for listening to. Gosh, no. Not me. Where did you get that idea?)
Thanks, team.
I wish you, devil, the Siduction team, and everyone else a peaceful and healthy 2026, and I would like to thank you for your commitment and hard work. The decision to postpone the release is a very good one and not a problem at all, and its name is a very good choice in the current times!
Greetings from frosty Bavaria to the "North",
graviton
Thanks, and North is frosty as well, believe me.
Hi! Are the plan to issue the new release in January still in force?
What about Plasma 6.5? Or even 6.6?
We've been trying to get things together for a release in January, but it was not supposed to happen. As most of you know, we are a small core team, and two out of four of us are still heavily occupied with real-life chores. So we decided to postpone it towards the end of February. We have uploaded a stack of fresh images on https://testbuilds.siduction.org/.
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Wir haben versucht, alles für eine Veröffentlichung im Januar vorzubereiten, aber es hat nicht geklappt. Wie die meisten von euch wissen, sind wir ein kleines Kernteam, und zwei von uns vieren sind immer noch stark mit Aufgaben im realen Leben beschäftigt. Deshalb haben wir beschlossen, die Veröffentlichung auf Ende Februar zu verschieben. Wir haben gerade eine Reihe neuer Images auf https://testbuilds.siduction.org/ hochgeladen.
Quote from: devil on 2026/01/25, 15:15:40
We've been trying to get things together for a release in January, but it was not supposed to happen. As most of you know, we are a small core team, and two out of four of us are still heavily occupied with real-life chores. So we decided to postpone it towards the end of February. We have uploaded a stack of fresh images on https://testbuilds.siduction.org/.
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Wir haben versucht, alles für eine Veröffentlichung im Januar vorzubereiten, aber es hat nicht geklappt. Wie die meisten von euch wissen, sind wir ein kleines Kernteam, und zwei von uns vieren sind immer noch stark mit Aufgaben im realen Leben beschäftigt. Deshalb haben wir beschlossen, die Veröffentlichung auf Ende Februar zu verschieben. Wir haben gerade eine Reihe neuer Images auf https://testbuilds.siduction.org/ hochgeladen.
Thank you so much for the update!
And by the way, Plasma 6.5 is already available in the repos. We might or might not be able to integrate Plasma 6.6 in the upcoming release.
I'm very grateful that all the work is being put in to keep this at such a high level, so a delay is not, I would say, that significant a thing with a rolling release. Perhaps it might even be worth letting it lag a little more if it means fitting in Plasma 6.6? Only put the build work in for that rather than one for 6.5 now, another for 6.6 later?
Just a suggestion. I'm sure others have theirs.
I am waiting like crazy ;D 8)
We are a rolling release, and that is a good thing. Hence we are in no hurry. The situation with us being entangled in real-life issues is getting better. Right now we tend to wait on Plasma 6.6 in Unstable. Unfortunately, that might take a little while. Right now all we know is, that » lots of things break with Qt 6.10, so Plasma 6.6 in unstable is not for just now«. As soon as we know more about how bad this is, we might reassess our release date. My gut feeling right now is it might take 2-3 weeks for Plasma 6.6 to enter Unstable.
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Wir sind ein Rolling Release, und das ist gut so. Daher haben wir es nicht eilig. Die Situation, in der wir mit Problemen im realen Leben zu kämpfen haben, verbessert sich allmählich. Momentan warten wir eher auf Plasma 6.6 in Unstable. Leider könnte das noch eine Weile dauern. Derzeit wissen wir nur, dass »mit Qt 6.10 viele Dinge nicht funktionieren, sodass Plasma 6.6 in Unstable vorerst nicht verfügbar ist«. Sobald wir mehr darüber wissen, wie schlimm das ist, werden wir möglicherweise unseren Veröffentlichungstermin neu bewerten. Mein Bauchgefühl sagt mir derzeit, dass es 2–3 Wochen dauern könnte, bis Plasma 6.6 in Unstable verfügbar ist.
It's nice to have such optimistic guts.
Whenever you're ready, that's the right time.
Als ich auf LinuxNews (https://linuxnews.de/was-ist-neu-bei-plasma-6-6/ (https://linuxnews.de/was-ist-neu-bei-plasma-6-6/)) las, dass Plasma 6.6 erschienen ist, hatte ich schon den Verdacht, dass ihr versuchen werdet, dies im neuen Release zu integrieren. Ich denke, dass dies ein guter Ankerpunkt für die neue Veröffentlichung ist. Lasst euch also die Zeit, die ihr dafür benötigt. Da Siduction eine Rolling Release Distribution ist, haben wir ja nicht wirklich großen Leidensdruck.
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When I read on LinuxNews (https://linuxnews.de/was-ist-neu-bei-plasma-6-6/ (https://linuxnews.de/was-ist-neu-bei-plasma-6-6/)) that Plasma 6.6 had been released, I suspected that you would try to integrate it into the new release. I think this is a good anchor point for the new release. So take the time you need to do this. Since Siduction is a rolling release distribution, we don't really have any pressure to rush.
edlin
Hi!
Is there a possibility for the new release to be issued in March?
Quote from: alexsid on 2026/03/01, 10:29:32
Hi!
Is there a possibility for the new release to be issued in March?
I know this isn't an answer to your question, but the existing ISO with a simple apt-update followed by apt dist-upgrade will also give you the latest version.
Since I broke my main installation beyond repair, I am also waiting. But no hurry, I have a good second installation for now. :)
I am also curious on plasma 6.6 8)
Quote from: alexsid on 2026/03/01, 10:29:32
Hi!
Is there a possibility for the new release to be issued in March?
The possibility exists, but I can't give you confirmation at this point, as the maintainers of Qt/KDE in Debian are still working on Plasma 6.6.
I am rather a noob but had the latest version of siduction running for a while, now I broke it due to some dumb action. Anyway - trying to restart from scratch and using the latest iso and immediately after setup running all the update&upgrade commands, some things that worked before seem to be broken. Won´t go into details at this moment because that would be topic for another thread.
Still - I have to apologize because it might have been answered multiple times before, but can someone explain, how siduction really is different from setting up the latest stable debian and then switching "mirrors" to sid ?
I only read that there is "a lot of background" work that is done by the siduction team (thanks for that!) , but as a beginner: which kind of background work can I think of? Can this be explained in some not too technical sentences that still allow to grasp the concept?
Or in other words: what do i miss (compared to siduction) If I install a minimal debian and then switching "mirrors" to sid?
Thanks!
> what [sic] do i miss (compared to siduction) If I install a minimal debian and then switching "mirrors" to sid?
For starters:
You won't be able to run virtualbox on the latest kernel.
If you really need a newer one, you can TRY this, might be slow (MODS - remove if you need, no problems)
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That's very cool -- thanks for doing that, @piper! :D
No problem, it's 5 days old, been busy
nice to see you :)
unfortunatly my system is broken for 2 months, and I really would like to do a fresh install. Waiting for the new siduction is not realy a problem, but do we have any information, when Plasma 6.6 will hit Debian? Will it at all? Plasma 6.7 will come in june, so maybe debian maintainer are waiting for this release?
Sid uses Plasma 6.6.3 now. The same is true for Siduction.
It started dripping in this morning but is far from complete. Once it is fully in, we will test for a week or so and then start thinking about implementing the features we want to ship.
thats really goos news!
@Devil: take your time 8)
Hey Devil, was sagt der Blick in die Glaskugel. Bin etwas in der Zwickmühle, da mein System wirklich hin ist, nach dem letzten DU startet es nicht einmal mehr. Ich stehe vor der Wahl das iso-Testbuild zu installieren oder noch zu warten. Ein, zwei Wochen wäre möglich, aber die Situation mit dem alten System von 2022, was auf der Backupplatte läuft ist nicht optimal ;D ;D
Ohne nerven zu wollen, sollte ich noch warten?
Quote from: Lanzi on 2026/04/28, 17:51:06
Hey Devil, was sagt der Blick in die Glaskugel. Bin etwas in der Zwickmühle, da mein System wirklich hin ist, nach dem letzten DU startet es nicht einmal mehr. Ich stehe vor der Wahl das iso-Testbuild zu installieren oder noch zu warten. Ein, zwei Wochen wäre möglich, aber die Situation mit dem alten System von 2022, was auf der Backupplatte läuft ist nicht optimal ;D ;D
Ohne nerven zu wollen, sollte ich noch warten?
And NO answer!
https://linuxnews.de/in-eigener-sache-urlaub-steht-an/
Quote from: Lanzi on 2026/04/28, 17:51:06
... mein System wirklich hin ist, nach dem letzten DU startet es nicht einmal mehr. ...
@Lanzi, have you tried to fix it with the "chroot helper" on the live ISO? It is easy and powerful if you have some idea about where the problem is.
Without any offense meant to the Siduction- Team which does a great job: I can only recommend to give ArchLinux a try. Albeit being more or less a beginner when it comes to linux - Arch runs incredibly stable, and with a mini tutorial everything could be setup even with time machine in case something goes wrong. Really not much more work than setting any other distro to he honest and runs without problems smooth for me 😎
Quote from: dibl on 2026/05/02, 14:02:52
Quote from: Lanzi on 2026/04/28, 17:51:06
... mein System wirklich hin ist, nach dem letzten DU startet es nicht einmal mehr. ...
@Lanzi, have you tried to fix it with the "chroot helper" on the live ISO? It is easy and powerful if you have some idea about where the problem is.
I completely killed my system with the last NVidia update. I'm still not sure how I managed that but the 'chroot helper' is like a magic wand. As always, thanks to the people who keep us going!
Quote from: beaver on 2026/05/02, 15:02:02
Without any offense meant to the Siduction- Team which does a great job: I can only recommend to give ArchLinux a try. Albeit being more or less a beginner when it comes to linux - Arch runs incredibly stable, and with a mini tutorial everything could be setup even with time machine in case something goes wrong. Really not much more work than setting any other distro to he honest and runs without problems smooth for me 😎
Ich denke, dass @Lanzi schon seinen Grund hat, warum er bei Siduction bleiben möchte. Er ist hier seit 2010 unterwegs, da sollte man schon wissen, was die Vorzüge und die Grenzen einer Rolling Release auf Basis von Debian/unstable sind und warum man sich dafür entschieden hat. Und @Lanzi sollte auch am Besten wissen, ob sich eine Notreparatur noch lohnt.
An Stelle von @Lanzi hätte ich schon längst das letzte Testbuild genommen und eine Neuinstallation vorgenommen. Wenn das neue Release herauskommt, muss man nur geringe Anpassungen (zum Beispiel Artwork) machen, um auf dem allerletzten Stand zu sein. Das ist ja gerade ein Vorteil von einem Rolling Release.
I think @Lanzi has his reasons for wanting to stick with Siduction. He's been around here since 2010, so he should know the advantages and limitations of a rolling release based on Debian/unstable and why that choice was made. And @Lanzi should know best whether a quick fix is still worth it.
If I were @Lanzi, I would have taken the latest test build and done a fresh install a long time ago. When the new release comes out, you only need to make minor adjustments (such as updating the artwork) to stay completely up to date. That's one of the advantages of a rolling release.
Just my two cents.
edlin
thanks for all the support. I tried everything, It started with the problems I described in the thread 2 month ago. And I actually started with charoot etc. But it got only worse with every week. and last week it didn't start anylonger etc.
So, the horse is dead... Jim :D
For the history: I started with debian 2003 and one year later with kanotix then sidux, Aptosid, siduction. Some of yiou might remember all this from their own history :-*
I will stay with Debian until the end :)
And yes, I will install the last testbuild.
Greetings to everyone :)
if anyone is interested
plasma
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budgie
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if anyone is interested in the corrected links 8)
plasma
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budgie
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edlin
edlin
thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am just an idiot
nothing more
nothing less
LOL Thanks @Edlin -- I just happen to be setting up a new system this week.
And thank you @piper for doing the work. :)
@dibl
No problem, as long as nobody bitches, I will do a stock siduction soon, these builds are what I use, I am just getting back into it, I am very rusty
Have a great day
signed
Arrogant Bastard
(which is also a good beer) :)
Quote from: piper on 2026/05/07, 00:53:33
No problem, as long as nobody bitches, I will do a stock siduction soon, these builds are what I use, I am just getting back into it, I am very rusty
LOL!
On your rustiest day, you are 47 times more proficient than me!
In 2 weeks i have to drive from Dayton, Ohio to Manchester, Vermont for a wedding. I will wave and send a greeting to Cheektowaga as I cruise past it. ::)
@piper -- I used your ISO to attempt installation (KDE/Plasma) on this (mostly) new hardware:
System:
Host: hibiscus Kernel: 7.0.5-2-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.6.4 Distro: siduction 2025.1.0 shine-on - kde -
(202604141203)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B860 Pro-A serial: <superuser required>
Firmware: UEFI vendor: American Megatrends LLC. v: 3.22 date: 02/11/2026
CPU:
Info: 20-core Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 800
min/max: 800/5400:5500:4600
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 580.142
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.22 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.11
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch
resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 580.142
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE driver: r8169
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros TP-Link TL-WN821N v3 / TL-WN822N v2 802.11n
[Atheros AR7010+AR9287] driver: ath9k_htc type: USB
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 7.3 TiB used: 1.15 TiB (15.8%)
Info:
Memory: total: 32 GiB note: est. available: 31.05 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (7.9%)
Processes: 406 Uptime: 10m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.40
Result:
Installation Failed
Package Manager Error
The package manager could not make changes to the installed system.
The command <pre>apt-get-purge -q -y remove calamares ^fll-*.*-livesettings set password</pre> returned error 100.
Next, I used the siduction 14 APR 2026 ISO and it finished the installation correctly. There were 1318 packages that needed upgraded -- it went through satisfactorily after I fixed the repos.
FYI.
@dibl
o my
let me check a couple things, i use cli-installer, been a very long time since i used the normal installer 2017/18
my bad for not checking that, i will build a new one and check both
sorry folks my baad
@dibl Thanks :)
Hi all!
It's mid-May 2026 already.
What's new about new Siduction 2025 release?
It is on the way, but it will be a 2026 release.
Be patient, it is not far away.
You can try our testbuilds and report issues, if you want and if you desperate enough.
But be aware, sometimes the testbuilds will change per our, sometimes only one time a week or so.
There are some little issues but not critical, you will find out 8)
@dibl (https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?action=profile;u=573) I installed these on 2 machines with normal installer and cli-installer, both work here and rebooted to new installs no problems
plasma
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-kde-amd64-202605190425.iso
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-kde-amd64-202605190425.iso.md5
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-kde-amd64-202605190425.iso.sha256
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-kde-amd64-202605190425.manifest
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-kde-amd64-202605190425.sources
budgie
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-nox-amd64-202605190459.iso
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-nox-amd64-202605190459.iso.md5
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-nox-amd64-202605190459.iso.sha256
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-nox-amd64-202605190459.manifest
http://piperfarms.us/myshit/siduction-2026.1.0-Big_Crime-nox-amd64-202605190459.sources
Piper doing great work and committing big crimes (pun) ::)
Well. everyone can build his/her own iso, that is easy.
It'd need a bit practice, and piper is a long time follower wilh a lot of knowledge and practices, he is doing a great job there.
But we are still optimising for the next release, so it is a snapshot of the current state.
And if you want to help us with debugin, try also our testbuilds and report.
We also looking for help, artwork, scripting, inovation, new small wayland gui like xorg easy to use. The only thing is to understand git and inkscape, qt and gtk, not all together but maybe one of that and last but not least, patient, patient patient and the will to stay a longer-term to work on in your private time.
And yes, mostly we communicate in German but we are also able to communicate in English.
So if you have any ideas don't hesitate to ask, commit, share you knowledge.
We communicate via an old technology, sorry guys, IRC.
Quote from: piper on 2026/05/19, 23:00:14I installed these on 2 machines with normal installer and cli-installer, both work here and rebooted to new installs no problems
IMPORTANT NOTICE WHEN USING THE
cli-installerThere is a bug in the ISOs dated '20260515' if the user selects multiple partitions in the dialog for mounting additional partitions, in addition to the HOME partition.
It is possible that a single partition is intended to be used for both the HOME partition and another mount point.
The bug has already been fixed, but the change has not yet been included in the latest ISOs.
------------------------------
ACHTUNG BEI DER BENUTZUNG DES
cli-installerEs existiert ein Bug in den ISOs mit Datum '20260515' wenn der Benutzer im Dialog zum Einhängen zusätzlicher Partitionen zusätzlich zur HOME Partition weitere Partitionen auswählt.
Es kann sein, dass eine Partition für HOME und einen weiteren Einhängepunkt benutzt werden soll.
Der Fehler ist bereits behoben, die Änderung aber noch nicht in den neuesten ISOs.
New ISO images are available that include the fixed cli-installer.
Es gibt neue ISOs mit dem fehlerbereinigten cli-installer.
https://testbuilds.siduction.org/
Quote from: scholle1 on 2026/06/03, 13:11:30New ISO images are available that include the fixed cli-installer.
Es gibt neue ISOs mit dem fehlerbereinigten cli-installer.
https://testbuilds.siduction.org/
Besten Dank!
I just booted the Xfce test iso. Well done and good job. I do have a question though. There is xfce-polkit available in the repos and yet it was chosen to use the mate version still. Is there a reason for this?
I love Lady Liberty with her head down in shame. Time appropriate.
Quote from: scholle1 on 2026/06/03, 13:11:30New ISO images are available that include the fixed cli-installer.
Es gibt neue ISOs mit dem fehlerbereinigten cli-installer.
https://testbuilds.siduction.org/
^ +1 @scholle1,
danke für die gute Arbeit.
Der cli-installer funktionierte einwandfrei. Grub wurde in PBR installiert, swap automatisch erkannt, fstab fehlerfrei angelegt. :)
Edit: Bei der Installation hatte ich geschlafen und root und User das gleiche PW vergeben.
Nach der Einrichtung von
doas und erstmaliger Benutzung verweigerte es mir mit dem Hinweis den Dienst, weil group und other auf die Datei /etc/doas.conf beschreibbar wären.
Das war schließlich mit
chmod -c 0400 /etc/doas.conf wieder behoben. ;)