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WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« on: 2016/07/04, 18:29:55 »
As of today, the transitions to a new kdepim 16.04.2-1 have started. The process was initiated by this bugreport over the weekend and accepted by the release team as of today. It will take days, maybe weeks to get all the packages into unstable in the right order. As debian-kde-qt-maintainer Lisandro writes, this can wreak havok for kdepim users until the transitions are completed.


If you rely on a working kmail or other components of kdepim, you should hold back on dist-upgrades until the transitions are completed. We will keep you posted. Other components of KDE or siduction should™ not be affected.


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Seit heute finden eine (bzw mehrere) Transition(s) für kdepim 16.04.2-1 statt. Dabei werden die Pakete für ein neues KDEPim in der richtigen Reihenfolge hochgeladen. Das kann  insgesamt Tage/Wochen dauern. Die Transitions wurden am Wochenende durch einen Bugreport beantragt, dem heute seitens des Releaee-Teams stattgegeben wurde. Wie Debian-KDE-Qt-Maintainer Lisandro schreibt, ist dabei Vorsicht geboten.


Wer also auf ein funktionierendes Kmail oder andere KDEPim-Komponenten angewiesen ist, sollte sich bis zum Abschluss der Transitions mit Dist-Upgrades zurückhalten. Wir halten euch auf dem Laufenden. Andere Komponenten von KDE oder siduction sollten™ nicht betroffen sein.

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #1 on: 2016/07/05, 18:13:50 »
Hi Community,

die ersten Komponenten von KDE-PIM in der Version 16.04.2 sind heute in SID angekommen. Bitte Vorsicht wer auf ein funktionierendes kontact/kmail/kaddressbook usw. angewiesen ist.

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the first component of the KDE PIM in version 16.04.2 arrived today in SID. Please be careful when d-u, who kontact on a functioning / kmail / kaddressbook so instructed is.

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# apt-show-versions -u|grep 16.04.2
akonadi-backend-sqlite:amd64/unstable 1.13.0-8 upgradeable to 4:16.04.2-2
akonadi-server:amd64/unstable 1.13.0-8 upgradeable to 4:16.04.2-2
kde-runtime:amd64/unstable 4:16.04.2-1 upgradeable to 4:16.04.2-2
kde-runtime-data:all/unstable 4:16.04.2-1 upgradeable to 4:16.04.2-2
plasma-scriptengine-javascript:amd64/unstable 4:16.04.2-1 upgradeable to 4:16.04.2-2

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #2 on: 2016/07/08, 11:52:11 »
Immer noch keine gute Idee einen d-u durchzuführen.

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Still not a good idea a d-u perform.

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Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.       
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  kdepim-kresources libeventviews4 libkolab0v5 libksieveui4 libmessagelist4 libnoteshared4
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  accountwizard kdepimlibs-data kf5-kdepim-apps-libs-data kf5-kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kf5-messagelib-data libgrantlee-textdocument5 libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar5
  libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadicore-bin libkf5akonadicore5 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5
  libkf5akonadiwidgets5 libkf5alarmcalendar5 libkf5blog5 libkf5calendarcore5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5calendarsupport5 libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5composereditorng5
  libkf5contacts-data libkf5contacts5 libkf5eventviews-data libkf5eventviews5 libkf5followupreminder5 libkf5gapi-data libkf5gapiblogger5 libkf5gapicalendar5 libkf5gapicontacts5
  libkf5gapicore5 libkf5gapitasks5 libkf5gpgmepp-pthread5 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5 libkf5gravatar5 libkf5holidays-data libkf5holidays5 libkf5identitymanagement5
  libkf5imap5 libkf5incidenceeditor-bin libkf5incidenceeditor5 libkf5kaddressbookgrantlee5 libkf5kdepimdbusinterfaces5 libkf5kdgantt2-5 libkf5kiogui5 libkf5kmanagesieve5
  libkf5kontactinterface-data libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5ldap5 libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim-plugins libkf5libkdepim5
  libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailcommon-plugins libkf5mailcommon5 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mailtransport5 libkf5mbox5 libkf5messagecomposer5 libkf5messagecore5
  libkf5messagelist5 libkf5messageviewer5 libkf5mime5 libkf5pimcommon-plugins libkf5pimcommon5 libkf5pimtextedit5 libkf5qgpgme5 libkf5sendlater5 libkf5syndication5 libkf5templateparser5
  libkolab1 libqt5xmlpatterns5 libwebrtc-audio-processing1
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-server akonadiconsole akregator apt apt-transport-https apt-utils blogilo cdrdao cpp-6 cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-core-drivers cups-daemon
  cups-ppdc cups-server-common dash desktop-file-utils dkms dpkg dpkg-dev fonts-mplus foomatic-db gcc-6 gcc-6-base glances grep hostname kaddressbook kalarm kde-l10n-de kde-runtime
  kde-runtime-data kdepim kdepim-doc kdepim-runtime kjots kleopatra kmail knode knotes konsolekalendar kontact korganizer ktimetracker libapt-inst2.0 libapt-pkg5.0 libasan3
  libatk-wrapper-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni libatomic1 libaudit-common libaudit1 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6 libc6-dev libcalendarsupport4 libcap-ng0 libcc1-0 libcilkrts5
  libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libdpkg-perl libebml4v5 liberror-perl libgcc-6-dev libgcc1 libgdata-common libgdata22 libgfortran3 libgimp2.0 libgomp1
  libgssdp-1.0-3 libgupnp-1.0-4 libhtml-parser-perl libincidenceeditorsng4 libitm1 libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdgantt2-0 libkleo4 libkpgp4 liblist-moreutils-perl liblsan0
  libmailcommon4 libmailimporter4 libmatroska6v5 libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessageviewer4 libmoo-perl libmpx2 libncurses5 libncursesw5
  libnghttp2-14 libnss-myhostname libopusfile0 libpam-systemd libperl5.22 libpimcommon4 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libpulsedsp libpython3.5 libpython3.5-minimal libpython3.5-stdlib
  libqmi-glib5 libqmi-proxy libquadmath0 libsendlater4 libslang2 libsmbclient libstdc++6 libsystemd0 libtalloc2 libtemplateparser4 libtinfo5 libtsan0 libubsan0 libudev1 libwbclient0
  libwebp5 libwebpdemux1 libwebpmux1 libwpd-0.10-10 libwpg-0.3-3 libwps-0.4-4 linux-libc-dev locales multiarch-support nano ncurses-base ncurses-bin network-manager-openvpn
  openprinting-ppds openvpn perl perl-base perl-modules-5.22 plasma-scriptengine-javascript postfix pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf
  pulseaudio-utils python-talloc python3.5 python3.5-minimal rkhunter samba-common samba-libs sddm sshfs sudo systemd systemd-sysv tzdata udev
168 aktualisiert, 81 neu installiert, 6 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 233 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 42,5 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #3 on: 2016/07/09, 10:34:28 »
Are any/all of those 'removed' files replaced by new installations?

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #4 on: 2016/07/09, 12:38:42 »
It seems like it.  I don't see a replacement for kdepim-kresourse and I am not sure about the one for libnoteshared4, but the rest seem to be replaced: libeventviews4 by libkf5eventviews5, libkolab0v5 by libkolab1, libksieveui4 by libkf5ksieveui5, libmessagelist4 by libkf5messagelist5 and libnoteshared4 maybe by libkf5akonadinotes5.

But, I'm not an expert.  So, maybe we should wait for some to chime in.


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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #5 on: 2016/07/09, 14:17:51 »
So far the packages to remove are o.k. to let go.


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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #6 on: 2016/07/09, 14:26:00 »
Thanks!

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #7 on: 2016/07/11, 11:20:17 »
So here it wants to deinstall

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kdepim-kresources libeventviews4 libkolab0v5 libksieveui4 libmessagelist4 libnoteshared4

should I let it go?

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #8 on: 2016/07/11, 11:47:05 »
...     should I let it go?   
Probably no one can tell you that from your partial output with only the removals, you might want to give us the whole one with new packages, too. For example, in bluelupo's output libeventviews4 gets removed, and libkf5eventviews5 comes new, there it is a good guess that the latter replaces the former. Investigate your apt output for similar patterns and decide.
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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #9 on: 2016/07/12, 12:06:33 »
Hi Community,

heute habe ich einen d-u auf einem meiner KDE Systeme durchgeführt (letzter d-u war am 4.7.2016). Der d-u lief ohne Fehler durch aber beim Start von kontact (kdepim) kommt folgende Fehlermeldung:
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Im E-Mail-Programm ist ein schwerwiegender Fehler aufgetreten. Das Programm wird
beendet. Die Fehlermeldung lautet: Fehler beim Einholen der Ressourcen-Sammlung.

Danach wird kontact geschlossen, d.h. in diesem Zustand ist kdepim nicht nutzbar.

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Today I have a d-u on one of my KDE performed Systems (updated d-u was on 07.04.2016). The d-u ran without fault through but when you start kontact (kdepim) comes the following error message:

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In email client a fatal error has occurred. The program is terminated. The error message is:
Error obtaining the resource collection.

Thereafter kontact closed, i.e. in this state is not usable kdepim.

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #10 on: 2016/07/12, 15:44:16 »
Hi bluelupo,

Looks like your above error correlates with your removed packages
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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  kdepim-kresources ...

Thx for trying - we should wait...

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #11 on: 2016/07/12, 17:10:19 »
or drop kdepim at al - one should have a closer look to the dependencies - some devs consider qtwebkit as insecure and obsolete - qtwebengine isn't in debian and will not be in a certain amount of time. So we can distribute insecure or outdated software or simply drop it. Case solved 8)

BTW: This is not KDE nor KDEPIM bashing - i have replaced Midori in LXDE and Qupzilla in LXQt because of exactly these reasons.
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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #12 on: 2016/07/12, 20:15:10 »
Hi Community,
u.a. sind nachfolgende Fehlermeldungen bei einem Restart von akonadi im Log zu sehen.

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$ akonadictl restart
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akonadicore_log: Failed to request resource "akonadi_maildir_resource_0" : "Fehler beim Einholen der Ressourcen-Sammlung."
akonadicore_log: Failed SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult "Fehler beim Einholen der Ressourcen-Sammlung."
akonadicore_log: Failed to request resource "akonadi_maildir_resource_0" : "Fehler beim Einholen der Ressourcen-Sammlung."
akonadicore_log: Failed SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult "Fehler beim Einholen der Ressourcen-Sammlung."
log_maildispatcher: Failed to get outbox folder. Retrying in:  15000

Auch ein "akonadictl fsck" mit nachfolgenden "akonadictl vakuum" hat nichts zur Fehlerbehebung beigetragen.

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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #13 on: 2016/07/13, 01:11:48 »
Did you delete

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~/.local/share/akonadi/file-lost+found
after   akonadictl fsck and akonadictl vacuum

fsck should be first, then vacum, I don't have any of this installed (pim) and search disabled. I build without it, The information on the order it is done,  I got from #debian-qt-kde and took notes on it just in case it helps someone else
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Re: WARNING: KDEPim 16.04.2-1 Transitions started
« Reply #14 on: 2016/07/13, 09:05:23 »
Hi piper,

Here's what I've done (in this order):

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$ akonadictl fsck
$ akonadictl vacuum # Could not be executed because the Akonadi backend (SQLlite) does not support according to error message
$ rm ~/.local/share/akonadi/file-lost+found/*

After a restart of akonadi carried out, but did not eliminate the problem.